Posted on 10/02/2017 2:03:04 AM PDT by Hostage
More than 20 people were killed and 100 injured in a horrific shooting near the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas Sunday night, police said. The "nonstop gunfire," according to one witness, sent bystanders outside the resort on the Vegas strip ducking for cover and fleeing for their lives. Tourists hid in their hotel rooms and flights headed into the McCarran International Airport airport were held elsewhere. Bystanders sprang into action, caring for the wounded and at least one described someone dying in their arms. Videos filmed by onlookers gave a window into the chaos that ensued, with some thinking that fireworks were going off. The final night of the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival was taking place across the street from Mandalay Bay when the shooting took place and concertgoers were caught off-guard. In the wake of the shooting, the Las Vegas Police Department said that "one suspect is down" and they did not believe there were any more shooters.
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Exactly what the French Revolution sought to accomplish via the guillotine. Their methods today might be a little different, but same process with the fantasy of the same result.
You can see the shooter’s girlfriend standing on a beach in Dubai, with the characteristic Dubai landmark in the background. This was captured from her Facebook page before it was taken down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjlNYFxlYF8
Look at 2:13
Thus it seems somewhat similar to the Oklahoma City bombing, involving an Indonesian girlfriend and Islamic connections.
Figures are now up to 58 dead, 515 to hospital. He had at lease 10 guns/rifles? with much ammo. Man reported to be recent convert to Islam, and ISIS is claiming credit. If that is true, could a Muslim hotel employee have helped with smuggling in guns and ammo?
Here are the facts regarding Presidential and Congressional activity regarding assault type weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
“Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act [AWB]— is a subsection of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a United States federal law that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms it defined as assault weapons, as well as certain ammunition magazines it defined as “large capacity.” The ten-year ban was passed by the U.S. Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52-48 vote in the Senate, and signed into law by then President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban’s enactment, and it expired on September 13, 2004, in accordance with its sunset provision.” [In 2004 President Bush was busy with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.]
“Between May 2003 and June 2008, U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-CA, and Representatives Michael Castle, R-DE, Alcee Hastings, D-FL, and Mark Kirk, R-IL, introduced bills to reauthorize the ban.[38] During the same time, Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-NJ, and Representative Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY, introduced similar bills to create a new ban with a revised definition for assault weapons. None of the bills left committee.[39]
“After the November 2008 election, the website of President-elect Barack Obama listed a detailed agenda for the forthcoming administration. The stated positions included “making the expired federal AWB permanent.”[40] Three months later, newly sworn-in Attorney General Eric Holder reiterated the Obama administration’s desire to reinstate the ban.[41] The mention came in response to a question during a joint press conference with DEA Acting Administrator Michele Leonhart, discussing efforts to crack down on Mexican drug cartels. Attorney General Holder said: “... there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons.”[42]
“Efforts to pass a new federal AWB were made in December 2012 after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.[43][44][45] On January 24, 2013, Senator Feinstein introduced S. 150, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (AWB 2013).[46] The bill was similar to the 1994 ban, but differed in that it would not expire after 10 years,[45]....The GOP Congressional delegation from the State of Texas condemned Feinstein’s bill, along with the NRA.[48] On March 14, 2013, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved a version of the bill along party lines.[49] On April 17, 2013, AWB 2013 failed on a Senate vote of 40 to 60.[50]”
After listening to and watching phone videos, it seems clear he had fully automatic weapons. Sounded perhaps like a Kalashnikov but can’t be sure. However, it was about 1700 feet into the concert venue, it would have been just hosing it down, no aiming. I read a report that police found 10 long weapons in the hotel suite. Anyone hear anything else?
Kalashnikov? It sounded deeper than 223 or 556.
Fast and Furious?
My first thought but the more I read about the guy, he could have very well been in legal possession of the auto and just went nuts for whatever reason..........
Me too brother, me too. The ones I heard shot pretty fast.
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Has his ideology been identified?
I have found out more. The wife, who “just happened” to be away, has a relative who is leader of the Antifa in Ardsley NY. This Antifa movement is lead by a 22 year old college drop out part of Ardsley’s wealthiest families. The village government of Ardsley voted to commend this group, which goes under the name, “No Peace But the Peace WE DECIDE” uses itself as a show of good but truly is not. The group decided to brainwash Paddock through his wife.
I have found out more. The wife, who “just happened” to be away, has a relative who is leader of the Antifa in Ardsley NY. This Antifa movement is lead by a 22 year old college drop out part of Ardsley’s wealthiest families. The village government of Ardsley voted to commend this group, which goes under the name, “No Peace But the Peace WE DECIDE” uses itself as a show of good but truly is not. The group decided to brainwash Paddock through his wife.
Three names and an organization are reported so far that I know of:
1. ISIS claims credit but may be lying.
2. Steven Paddock - not political, not registered R or D, very mysterious how he is even involved, very. But he’s the named shooter but many questions raise many doubts. No criminal record, no history of mental problems. Nothing bad on him thus far. No military training, no heavy arms training, his hotel rooms (he rented two) were found with over a dozen rifles some which were full auto assault, some reported to have been illegally modified. He was a fan of country music.
3. Marilou Danley - female companion of Haddock, fled the country after shooting, she is reported to have been registered with Paddock for the two rooms he rented at Mandalay Bay. Her ethnicity is Philipino, her ideology unknown. Police want her for questioning.
4. Geary Danley - husband of Marilou Danley, wild-eyed, crooked and stained toothed confirmed Trump hater. This person needs to be investigated.
Theories and possible facts - there was a group behind Steven Paddock. He had no background on how to modify weapons to be full auto assault. He could have paid for them or he could have been used, blackmailed. He used Marilou Danley’s ID card for the slot club, why? Another group may have used him. He was found shot to death whether by law enforcement or by his own hand or someone else, is still to be determined.
Questions I would be guided by that no one else seems to be looking into would follow that Marilou Danley was last reported in the Philippines or Japan. How did she get out of the country so quick and why? Is she connected at all with the Islamic terror-independence movement in the Philippines? I would go to the Philippines and ask local friendlies and government friendlies to get a profile on Marilou Danley.
Other circumstantial testimony needs to be fleshed out such as the victims and witnesses who report that about 30 minutes before the shooting, a woman was walking around in the theater area strangely announcing to the crowd that they would all die that night. I would get photos of Paddock’s wife (who seems to be a nice person unconnected), photos of Marilou Danley and any women connected to them or to Paddock or any women connected to Geary Danley, and I would ask the victims who are alive and capable and all other witnesses if they recognize any women in the photos as the woman announcing that they would die.
> “The wife, who “just happened” to be away, has a relative who is leader of the Antifa in Ardsley NY.”
Thanks, I will search for that. If you have a link about it, please post.
> “The group decided to brainwash Paddock through his wife.”
How did you come by this?
I don’t doubt it. Those filthy people are evil in every aspect.
I divide liberals into three groups. Two groups are beyond talking to, and I avoid interacting with them at all costs.
The three groups are:
1.) The Goodhearted Useful Idiots: I don’t think most of these people are idiots, some are, some are apolitical but embrace liberal concepts, but a lot of them are emotional thinkers, the kind of people who are generally good and say “why can’t we help out the underprivileged?” They don’t think all the way through, but it seems right to them. Some of these people are religious.
2.) The Evil Useful Idiots: These I avoid. These are the people you mentioned, the people I have seen at demonstrations with spittle on their lips, bulging eyes, have no control of their vocabulary as they call you a fascist. These people are unstable, and are the kind responsible for advocating violence and carrying it out on all levels. They are “True Believers” who subscribe the garbage utopian underpinnings of liberalism and believe in the concept that to reach their utopia they believe exists, some people will have to be eliminated. They cannot be reasoned with, the only way out for them is to be “a liberal that gets mugged”, and even then it might not shake them loose. These are the people who get dragged away after the revolution by the very people they supported, as they scream “Why are you doing this? I’m on your side! I believe!” These people are domestic enemies of the United States, and are the foot soldiers for group #3 below. I avoid these people, and have had a good deal of exposure to them in Washington DC during my trips down there. They are predictably unpredictable, and I believe, mentally unstable. Have you seen the Veritas Videos? Those people who James O’Keefe recorded all fall into this group.
3.) The Upper Party Leftists: These are the truly evil and dangerous leftists. They don’t believe in their own crap. They believe in power, Orwell’s “boot stamping on a face forever”. They know what the score is, and they regard group #2 as simple cannon fodder to be used as needed. These are the people responsible for hundreds of millions of murders of citizens by their own governments in the 20th century. In Orwell’s 1984 (as well as the Soviet Union and other Communist countries) these would be the upper party members.
As I said, the people you mentioned are probably all in group #2, with some in the first group, though many of them would peter out after some interaction with the people in group #2. Most are either too apathetic or lazy to get involved, or are normal enough to realize those people in group #2 are not to be associated with.
The death toll is now up to 60 with a hospital death. Here are a number of articles that are very recent. One concerns people who had served him in a store and how he disrespected his girlfriend. Another deals with the weapons.
Still no motive found. Lots of circumstantial evidence and hearsay that does not rise to motive or provide any clue to motive.
A few reports say he was found in his room dead, from a gunshot wound. Many immediately assume he killed himself. Perhaps he did.
But another report says that cameras were installed outside his room on service carts to monitor when the police would be coming. And many including the report writers themselves assume he installed them.
I’d like to run with the herd and think “Yep, he was the shooter, yep he did it and he trained himself and he was mentally deranged”. And then I think if I was an investigator, I would try to imagine if there could be any other theory as to what happened. And one of them could be that this was staged. If there was a terror group, or terror person other than Paddock, who was the shooter, I could kill Paddock, pull off the mass shooting, watch for when police were coming, and exit before they got to the room. And then I would ask myself who could do such a thing?
Marilou Danley’s husband is Geary Danley, and he is a confirmed Trump hater. I would investigate his whereabouts just to be sure he’s not getting away with anything while everyone focuses on Paddock.
Another thing I would look at is the Hotel’s camera system, who was coming and going in the corridor where the shooter’s room was located. Who put those cameras up outside the room, where were cameras found, what floors, what locations?
Just to be sure, just to cover all bases, I would do everything I could to make sure someone is not getting away while the focus is on Paddock. And I would do this until a clear motive is found behind Paddock.
yep......
We can presume all of that and more is in process
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