Posted on 09/28/2017 2:44:31 PM PDT by EveningStar
People have joked that the United States of America has no culture of its own. Theyve suggested that American culture is the collection of other cultures. Thats partly true. America is an amazing tapestry of subcultures mixed together to give the country a unique, distinct, and very evident culture. Americas culture is, in fact, the result of the great experiment that is our existence. We come from all over the world, and together we form what was once called a melting pot. Were not required to lose the identity of our country of origin, but instead, were celebrated for what we bring, adding to the culture at large...
[Black culture] is American culture. In fact, it is a culture that is the result of America. In that way, black culture may be different from Italian, Japanese, French, or Hispanic cultures, which all brought their individual cultures and practices with them to the United States. These and various other cultures were then shaped by their new homeland. Black culture, on the other hand, is different. Black culture is uniquely American. It is birthed right here, proudly made in the USA...
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Obviously not, because Black American culture is different from Cuban or Jamaican or French Antillean, or Brazilian or Panamanian culture.
Clearly, the "American" or "Anglo" component played a role in making Black American culture different from African or Caribbean culture.
That is something that one could argue against those who say that White influences played no role at all in making jazz or blues.
I'm wondering why somebody would take that side of the argument and deny that Black (or White) American culture didn't come from a variety of sources and a mixture of races and ethnic groups.
Similarly, what we think of as Mexican music owed a lot to Germans and other White Europeans who brought their music and instruments to Texas and Mexico.
Nope it came out of Harlem
But it is well appreciated in the South
Indeed
The entire "civilized world," to use an anachronism, but not places like the interior of Mali, where there were still ethnomusicologists who were roaming around with 78-rpm record cutters, often WWII surplus.
Which reminds me, in my study (I was born in '54 so it's before my time ;> ) we learned that post-WWII there were lots of low-power AM stations in the rural south, made from WWII surplus transmitters, with white-owned stations playing country and black-owned stations playing blues and rhythm/blues. At night white people could listen to black music on their portable radios without getting caught, and black people could listen to country, and both could listen to high-power popular music stations like WLS and WOR, so the different musicians began to use what they heard in the other's music, with the result being rock-n-roll. When the Mali recordings were being made in 1952, Alan Freed was beginning the new era of popular music, and it's never looked back.
I find the whole idea of that disgusting,m but that's just me. I know that others enjoy it.
But then, ketchup on scrambled eggs, also came out of Manhattan, which I also find a disgusting combo. ;^)
George Gershwin wrote RHAPSODY IN BLUE in 1924, for crying out loud! And that is BLUES!
You need to learn more about the blues' history!
It is probably some sort of pounding sticks together...or some appropriated and mutated western music.
I refuse to even bother with the link, since I happen to know quite a lot about music and the history of music. And yes, even music from Africa.
America had a culture from the start, the culture of its founding people. Anglo-Saxon WASP culture. It wasn’t loud, colorful and obnoxious, but it was real.
I just looked it up and IF whats on line can be believed, even Thomas Jefferson at this dish, during a time when Harlem was a vast farm land, owned and operated by a white DUTCH family, who may have eaten waffles ( a Pennsylvania Dutch dish well known in Pa. ), but not with a side of Southern Fried Chicken!
But in the 1930s it was, indeed, being served in restaurants in Harlem for the first time.
It's anyone's guess where or when this dish began!
Some of the jazz players were hungry after a gig, early morning, bar couldn’t serve so the cook made up some chicken and waffles...the rest is as they say history
Yeah ketchup on eggs is icky
Ketchup on anything is icky.
The problem is that this ghetto culture today is probably our number one export to the globe.
FYI...Chop Suey would have been better example, as it IS an American dish; something NEVER made nor even eaten in any part of China.
And American Goulash isn't goulash at all, misnamed, and no Hungarian, nor anyone of Hungarian heritage/someone who like Hungarian food, would touch with a barge pole!
Danish pastry isn't Danish at all, but an Hungarian pasty, renamed during WW I, in America, because nonHungarians were boycotting anything and everything even remotely connected to those on the side we were fighting.
So yes, there absolutely ARE purely American "culture" icons solely ours alone!
Disgusting...even to just see; let alone eat that way!
Personally, I love ketchup on hamburgers and French fries, but that's me. :-)
Just never put it on a hot dog.
SPOT ON...that is a sacrilege; however, so is putting mayo on a hot dog, which YES, sadly, they do in Bermuda!
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