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Trump Is Right about the NFL Protests
National Review ^ | 9-26-17 | John Hawkins

Posted on 09/27/2017 9:49:55 AM PDT by bigbob

I did not expect Donald Trump to win the 2016 election, and like many, many other political professionals, I was egregiously wrong. After listening to what a lot of diehard Trump fans had to say, I took two big lessons away from being that wrong.

The first is that I’m not Nostradamus, and I shouldn’t be in the business of definitively saying one candidate will win or lose a race. Hopefully, a lot of us learned that lesson in 2016. The other is that unfortunately, a large number of conservative Americans have given up on people like me, on people like David French, and on magazines like National Review. Do I think that’s right? Fair? Smart? Nope, but I do get it.

They hear us talk all day about our principles as if we’re going to solve the problems we have via some kind of discussion among gentlemen. Meanwhile, the liberal response is “You’re a Nazi, and you shouldn’t be allowed to have a job unless you agree with us.” We’re trying to win theoretical victories for our principles, but the Left is fighting to win in the real world — and they are coming out on top in the cultural wars with ease. The very fact that we’re even having this debate about the NFL (remember when sports was where you went to get away from politics?) tells you who’s winning.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidfrenchresponse; nfl; nflprotest; trump; trumpnflprotest
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Yes I know it's in the National Review, just read the article anyway. This is a response to a previous piece of excrement by David French in which he not only points out why French is wrong, but why Trump is right to have engaged on this issue, and the value of having the argument.

Excellent article, despite where it is published. Maybe those who run NR will pay heed.

1 posted on 09/27/2017 9:49:55 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

The other is that unfortunately, a large number of conservative Americans have given up on people like me, on people like David French, and on magazines like National Review.
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Mostly because you regularly side with illegal aliens and their employers against the citizens and the rule of law.
National Review has long been a mouthpiece for the Cheap Labor Express telling us that amnesty was inevitable and enforcement was impossible.
We love our country and we want to keep it.
Simple as that.


2 posted on 09/27/2017 9:54:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bigbob

The other is that unfortunately, a large number of conservative Americans have given up on people like me, on people like David French, and on magazines like National Review. Do I think that’s right? Fair? Smart? Nope, but I do get it.


Is this an apology for the NR issues that trashed candidate Trump repeatedly on their covers? And you don’t think it’s fair we stopped reading you? What did you think would happen?


3 posted on 09/27/2017 9:54:59 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: bigbob

Wasn’t David French the ringleader of the Never Trump issue on NR?


4 posted on 09/27/2017 9:55:20 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: sparklite2

Articles like this that DO appear in NR tell us that maybe someone, somewhere is realizing they’ve soiled their own nest. Only time will tell if they have changed.


5 posted on 09/27/2017 9:56:23 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: NohSpinZone

Big League. He’s even the designated dumbass that NeverTrump ringleader Bill Kristol promoted to run as an independent against Trump.

French and Kristol will never see the light. That an article like this even sees the light of day suggests that someone does however.


6 posted on 09/27/2017 9:58:23 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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Frerpers: Please don’t refuse to read this article just because its from NR. It fully explains why we need to fight the culture wars. Let’s give credit where credit is due.


7 posted on 09/27/2017 9:59:13 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: bigbob

After a bit of navel gazing, he does make a succinct case as to why all this matters, and far more than the opinions of some stuffed-shirt pundits who are like dogs barking to hear their own voice. Good article.


8 posted on 09/27/2017 10:03:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: bigbob; Liz; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; MrB; Mr. K
They {Trump supporters} hear us talk all day about our principles as if we’re going to solve the problems we have via some kind of discussion among gentlemen.

Meanwhile, the liberal response is “You’re a Nazi, and you shouldn’t be allowed to have a job unless you agree with us.”

We’re trying to win theoretical victories for our principles, but the Left is fighting to win in the real world — and they are coming out on top in the cultural wars with ease. The very fact that we’re even having this debate about the NFL (remember when sports was where you went to get away from politics?) tells you who’s winning.

You want to be a conservative and have run-of-the-mill political beliefs?

Then you’d better work somewhere that’s friendly to conservatives, or you might end up like James Damore at Google, Brandon Eich at Mozilla, or even Curt Schilling at ESPN. That’s if you don’t have some government official really squelching your First Amendment rights by telling you to “bake the cake” or be run out of business.

You want to express an ordinary conservative opinion at college? In Hollywood? Then you’d better think twice or prepare for a river of abuse. Even the Boy Scouts are being systematically destroyed. We may not want to fight a culture war, but the reality is that a culture war is being fought against people like us every day whether we like it or not, and the NFL has chosen to be part of that.

Someone 'gets it'... that's kind of refreshing.... and totally different.

9 posted on 09/27/2017 10:04:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (What's next? Burning the US Flag on the sideline of professional sports games?! freeper AzJoe)
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Good article. He suggests the limp-wristed writers at NR are simply jealous of Trump’s platform.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 10:04:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Is this the guy who ran for president for about 30 seconds?


11 posted on 09/27/2017 10:05:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: bigbob

I canceled my subscription right there and then.


12 posted on 09/27/2017 10:07:15 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: bigbob
We’re trying to win theoretical victories for our principles, but the Left is fighting to win in the real world — and they are coming out on top in the cultural wars with ease.

I don't agree. The author seems to not believe the principles and values of individual freedom calling them "theoretical". Were the principles laid down in the Declaration of Independence "theoretical"? No, they were and are truths based on faith God. Those truths that "all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" are as true today as they ever were.

The Right's stronghold is truth based on faith in God. The Left's stronghold is faith in man and his government based on lies and deception. That is why the Left fails every time to win the debate in the forum of ideas. And that is also why the left now tries to force their way with coercion and intimidation becsue they have nothing to stand for except for totalitarian government.

The reason the left has been winning is they have had little focused, sustained opposition - until now. The "real world" is changeable in a millisecond. What changes the real world is faith. It is time for the Right to change the real world to one of individual freedom and opportunity based on that freedom as legally protected by the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme law of the Land. The way we change the real world is by faith in God. Faith and freedom go hand in hand. You cannot win or maintain freedom without faith.

13 posted on 09/27/2017 10:14:30 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: bigbob

Tell National Review to release the identity of the big donors who are keeping the lights on there. That will explain their positions.

Grassroots conservatives have abandoned NR. NR is an advocacy operation for the interests of its big donors.

Understanding the hatred NR has for President Trump is very simple: trade and immigration.

It’s the same people who fund the GOP establishment to push mass cheap labor immigration and for trade agreements allowing them to deindustrialize the USA in favor of cheaper locations abroad.

The social issues are a sop to try to disingenuously convince American voters to redefine “conservativism” to mean mass cheap labor immigration and deindustrialization of the USA.

Notice how anything that smacks of American nationalism sends the globalist writers of NR into hysterical paroxysms of outrage.


14 posted on 09/27/2017 10:17:15 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: bigbob

Bravo! Awesome article and right on.


15 posted on 09/27/2017 10:17:34 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: bigbob
We’re trying to win theoretical victories for our principles, but the Left is fighting to win in the real world

Amen! Trump, unlike 99.9% of the rest of the GOP "leaders", isn't afraid of getting his suit dirty.

16 posted on 09/27/2017 10:21:54 AM PDT by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: sparklite2

I listen to these panels on Fox, like The Five or this guy Steve Hayes. Excuse me, they bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. They are so clueless that it’s pathetic. Juan Williams?

In short, people on this forum for sure, realize that these people know nothing more, and probably less than we do.

The commentators who support Trump, seem to understand him. Jesse Waters last night said Trump is a Crusader. Spot on. Even Gutfield is getting it right.

Krauthammer? With him gone, it’s been refreshing.


17 posted on 09/27/2017 10:41:32 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Let's get Newt in there to help...)
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Since both Waters and Gutfeld are on The Five, I wouldn’t have included the show in my list of the clueless.


18 posted on 09/27/2017 10:47:06 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: bigbob

Reading NRO is no different than reading the NYT or Compost.

While I’ll do it, I’ll never believe a word of it.


19 posted on 09/27/2017 10:48:33 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bigbob

I still can’t forget the 27 article barrage from these scumbags. It broke my heart to see Ed Meese, an acquaintance I like very much join in but at least turned around later. It’s nice to see this guy is coming to understand that actions have consequences but I won’t spit on any of the NRO crowd as they wouldn’t be worthy of it.


20 posted on 09/27/2017 10:48:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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