Posted on 09/25/2017 5:13:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
In a relatively rare admission for an American scholar, a leading U.S. historian who authored a provocative new tome about North American military conflicts states bluntly that Canada won the War of 1812.
Johns Hopkins University professor Eliot Cohen, a senior adviser to former U.S. secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, writes in his just-published book Conquered Into Liberty that, ultimately, Canada and Canadians won the War of 1812.
And Cohen acknowledges that, Americans at the time, and, by and large, since, did not see matters that way.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalpost.com ...
That explains why we’re stuck with Justin Bieber.
This cannot stand.
I remember reading that the US didn’t win the war of 1812, but didn’t particularly lose it, either. Glad I could help. LOL
Which is why they speak French throughout the nation to this very day. Oh, wait...
It was British troops that came down and burned Washington. Yes, Canadians were among them, but if I recall correctly, it was predominantly a British force from England.
54 40 or fight.
Yeah, but which country has had The Stanley Cup since 1994?
Could you please sack York (Toronto) again. It is a good location but overrun by crooked politicians and parasites.
Well, who exactly got to eat the pig?
“professor Eliot Cohen,”
“Eliot” is a fat kid who eats paste.
Isn’t this article from way back in 2011?
Seems to me I was taught it was a win versus the British because the British didn’t beat us senseless and we established our navy with Canada being stretch that didn’t work out. But I’ve never heard it as a glorious win especially as win or loss to Canada which did not exist as Canada.
But we won by losing. Imagine adding those cities to our own.
Sack York?
Sack Canada, heck the west will help.
Nope, even President Polk backed down and took the existing border that we now have with Canada. 54" 40 would have including the lower two-thirds of British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and much of Ontario.
We were fighting the British, though, and the fact that they didn't take us over again could be counted as a victory.
Those who went to war because they wanted to take over Canada certainly didn't get what they wanted, but we had so much land at the time that we could afford to forget about all that afterwards.
Bushite Eliot Cohen is no fan of Trump's. Maybe he's smoothing the way for eventually emigrating.
LOL! At time Canada did not exist; the colonies of Lower and Upper Canada were ruled by the UK.
Interesting history lesson played out in our modern highway map ...
US-2 was one of the original Federal highways in the 20th century. It was constructed along a route that had been designated decades earlier as an east-west road along the northern edge of the U.S.
From east to west, the route runs from Houlton, Maine (right on the border with the Canadian province of New Brunswick) to Rouses Point on Lake Champlain in upstate New York (right on the New York-Quebec border).
From west to east, the route runs from Everett, Washington (on the Pacific Ocean) to St. Ignace on the southern tip of Michigan's Upper Peninsula (the north side of the Mackinac Bridge).
The gap between the eastern and western sections of US-2 covers an area that would have been part of the U.S. if the War of 1812 had gone our way.
The war of 1812 was against the UK, not Canada. The US bit off more than it could chew invading Canada, but I don’t think that was a primary or even a secondary goal going into the war.
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