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To: DoughtyOne

1. Tripled federal spending, no vetoes to try curbing spending
2. Rewarded 3.5 million illegals unconditional amnesty, causing tens of millions of illegals to flood in.
3. Allowed awful unbalanced trade with China sowing seeds of millions of manufacturing jobs lost for the middle class.

All 3 above are exactly opposite of President Trump’s agenda.

Easy to call someone idiot, difficult to refute facts.
I always try to deal with facts wherever they may lead.

But Reagan does have redeeming items. Tax cuts being the best, followed by strengthening the weakened military by Carter.


37 posted on 09/22/2017 5:19:38 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans flirt with liberal media who will never vote for them! So dumb.)
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To: entropy12
For most of Reagan's terms in office, the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.

1. Tripled federal spending, no vetoes to try curbing spending

Reagan had to rebuild our miliary after Carter desimated it.  Yes, he had to make deals to achieve that.  I guess you would have been happier if Reagan had left our military in a terrible state, and the Soviet Union had not been tasked with competing with us, and had remained the paria nation it was.  I'm sure the Eastern European and Asian nations that got their independence back then would side with you on that?  AS IF!

Here you are ignoring all this to list the suposedly terrible things Reagan did.  That's terribly misguided.


2. Rewarded 3.5 million illegals unconditional amnesty, causing tens of millions of illegals to flood in.

Back in the day Reagan described what he thought would take place.  He talked about 1 million illegal aliens.  It's what Congressional leaders were pushing.  I remember the dynamics from that time very well.  Reagan himself talked down illegal alien immigration, and said he was not in favor of granting amnesty, but he thought it was vitally important to strengthen our immigration laws.  You have put him down for trusting future politicians to enforce our laws.

Since when is it unreasoned to expect our elected officialls to enforce our laws?  You twist every aspect of this to trash Reagan.

That rest is a lie unless you can prove it.

Provie me with yearly illlegla immigration numbers to back it up, or you're just lying hoping nobody will call you on it.

The numbers from 1990-1993 may have been miniscule.  If so, it wasn't Reagan's actions.  It wold have been the actions of GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Barack Obama..


3. Allowed awful unbalanced trade with China sowing seeds of millions of manufacturing jobs lost for the middle class.

This is also a lie.  Trade with China was very small during the Reagan presidency.  Trade with China didn't take off until the early 1990s.  When businesses and our govrnment colluded to move as much manufacturig off shore as possible.  Nice try.  FAIL!

All 3 above are exactly opposite of President Trump’s agenda.

As I intimated earlier, you really don't know what you're talking about.  None the less, here you are trying to attack Reagan on a Conservative forum.

What the hell is wrong with you?.


Easy to call someone idiot, difficult to refute facts.

Well, it's not as easy as making them up.  I'll grant you that.  It's still very easy to set the record straight..

I always try to deal with facts wherever they may lead.

Well, that's a fine thing to say, unless when you prove otherwise in the same post,... as you have here

But Reagan does have redeeming items. Tax cuts being the best, followed by strengthening the weakened military by Carter.


Duh!  Ya think?

38 posted on 09/22/2017 5:45:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: entropy12

BTW: In your haste to try to make Reagan look as bad as you could, you forgot to mention that his tax cuts doubled tax receipts.

Oops, just sticking to the fact right?


39 posted on 09/22/2017 5:49:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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