Posted on 09/21/2017 3:36:08 PM PDT by TigerClaws
Full title: Nat Turner, the leader of a violent Virginia slave uprising, will be honored on a new emancipation statue in Richmond
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What you’re talking about slavery...discussions of productivity rates falling really don’t have a place at the table.
I don’t like the reasons the blm types want this statue. But i got no heartburn with turner.
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Agreed
Am pretty sure even the Bushido code - who would rather have the soldier die before surrender or capture, would be all for killing ALL your captors and their supporters to ensure your getaway to get a chance to come back and die for the Emperor with pride, to erase the dishonor he brought upon himself.
I’m kinda with you on that thought. To me catching a slave is like penning up a Siberian tiger in the tough shed.
Don’t come crying to me when it does the whole Ronco food processor routine on you and your family.
Guess one could say it is part of the cost of doing business.
Either put your money in a good security team OR face leaving yourself very vulnerable.
I used to ‘laugh’ when it was depicted that white people in a diner ‘treating the black cook like he was ....’ and then sit there and ask him to make you a sandwich.
Were they so naive so as not to think he would act OR would he be so intimidated not to do anything to the food.
I have always lived by the code ‘Don’t screw with the people that handle your food AND don’t mess with the Volunteer help’.
If no blackamoor were ever allowed to set foot on NOrth America is more like if
This has been universally the case upon the end of slavery. Slave societies associate work with slavery, and leisure with wealth. In a bourgeoise or middle class, or capitalist society, work is expected. People don’t go automatically from slavery to bourgeoise. There is a time of transition that can be quite long. If you’re a citizen of a slave state, this transition period is costly. Freeing the slaves is going to mean a dysfunctional society for some time. But, if you want to think the experiences in British Caribbean with compensated emancipation didn’t play a role in hardening the South against emancipation, fine. It’s all history now. But, the lesson has current application, for example, the end of communism in East Germany. The generation that was formed prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall never adjusted to life as free citizens. They just eventually became irrelevant. Ditto if ever North and South Korea were to be united. Fee of the people of North Korea would be able to function as citizens of a free society.
Turner thought he could succeed to bring about change through violence as happened in Haiti, even though the efforts of Vessey and Bussa and a dozen others before him failed. Thanks in part to Turner, the progress in thought of the 1810’s and 1820’s that, left alone, would have likely bloomed into an organized Liberian mass deportation/exodus and federal reimbursement of slaveowners for their lost holdings (as Britian did in the ‘30s after they made slavery illegal) died in a Civil War instead.
I guess I don’t blame Turner or condemn him. But I don’t idolize him because he doesn’t deserve it. There should be no heroic statue of him.
Those “white people” claimed ownership of other human beings. Stealing their slaves liberty, property, and labor from birth.
Killing a person who claims you as their slave is justifiable homicide. Killing the children is problematic, but the adult women were equally guilty. They are legitimate targets for a revolting slave.
Tactically and strategically, Turner and his followers made a mistake when they killed the women, as it motivated the enemy. But there is no moral issue with killing an adult who has enslaved you.
Was it the woman and the child he killed who enslaved him?
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