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Why did one of the U.S. Navy’s most advanced subs return to port with a pirate flag?
WaPo ^ | 9/13/17 | Thomas Gibbons-Neff

Posted on 09/18/2017 9:31:40 AM PDT by Rebelbase

[snip] An image posted to a Pentagon media site and tweeted by Scottish journalist Ian Keddie shows the USS Jimmy Carter, a Seawolf-class nuclear-powered submarine, returning to her home port in Washington Tuesday flying the American flag alongside the unmistakable pirate skull and crossed bones, known as the Jolly Roger.

The 450-foot-long vessel is one of three in its class and is specially modified to conduct some of America’s most covert underwater operations. That fact alone — as Keddie points out — makes the appearance of the black and white flag significant. The Carter, according to photos posted in April, also flew the Jolly Roger returning from its last patrol.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jollyroger; navy; pirates; usnavy
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To: Tax-chick
International Talk Like a Pirate Day?

I thought that was tomorrow.

21 posted on 09/18/2017 9:46:29 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Rebelbase

I don’t mind it. I can’t stand they named it after Carter, but...the sailors don’t get to choose where they serve.

I don’t have much of a problem with a pirate flag on a return to port or something like that. The Jolly Rogers (VF-84) had them permanently painted on the plane and it looked great.

Sub Drivers like (and need) some esprit de corps, let em do what they want.

On an associated note, I find the weird romantic obsession with 17th-18th century pirates bizzare. They weren’t nice or honorable people, and there was a reason they were ground out without remorse by civilized countries around the world and had their tarred corpses hung at harbor entrances.


22 posted on 09/18/2017 9:48:21 AM PDT by rlmorel (If all you have is a Hammer and Sickle, everything looks like a fascist.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I must be blind - can’t find the broom.


23 posted on 09/18/2017 9:49:05 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Rebelbase
Why pirate, when the other possibility is a Yale Skull and Bones?   It is known the CIA--that GHWB "once" led--has commandeered the activities of such craft. Every bit as good as numerology, this could be seen as a claim to power.

I think it the most likely explanation.

24 posted on 09/18/2017 9:51:27 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: Rebelbase
Silent Service. WaPo don't need to know.
25 posted on 09/18/2017 9:52:33 AM PDT by Jonah Hex
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To: Rebelbase

I’ve seen older photos on line of US subs with the (gasp!) Confederate Battle Flag on them!


26 posted on 09/18/2017 9:53:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Rebelbase
its a symbolic dog-whistle,,
they just dont know it yet..
27 posted on 09/18/2017 9:54:21 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Tax-chick

In the series ender there was a Jolly Roger, revealed right at the end....


28 posted on 09/18/2017 9:55:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: PGR88

Read the article


29 posted on 09/18/2017 9:59:57 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: rlmorel
They weren’t nice or honorable people

No, they were not. In my case, it's a pox on all their houses, the pirates, various monarchs. That said, I still loved Black Sails .

30 posted on 09/18/2017 10:00:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Afterguard

Ummm, it was a joke.


31 posted on 09/18/2017 10:00:43 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: G Larry

First thing I noticed. I’m sure the sail is a composite material. Looks like a slight side impact. I don’t think we’d be seeing it if it was important.


32 posted on 09/18/2017 10:01:55 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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To: G Larry

Not a wrinkle. A little piece of the anechoic coating has sloughed off.


33 posted on 09/18/2017 10:02:05 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: Rebelbase

Unless there is a better snap than the one published in the compost, hard to say what kind of flag it is.

KYPD


34 posted on 09/18/2017 10:03:09 AM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: lacrew

There isn’t a broom. The poster was just pointing out that IF a sub displays a broom as it’s returning, it has a well known and standard meaning.


35 posted on 09/18/2017 10:10:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: mewzilla

LOL, don’t get me wrong, I love the concept of honorable, lovable pirates as a movie thing, but as you and I agree, in real life...not nice!


36 posted on 09/18/2017 10:11:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (If all you have is a Hammer and Sickle, everything looks like a fascist.)
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To: Rebelbase

I can’t remember, but there was some exercise where one of the ships won the right to fly it.

I was in so many I can’t remember which one it was, but I remember it was one of the scenarios where a few ships played aggressor with everyone else trying to hunt it down.

If one of the aggressors accomplished the objective, they won the flag.


37 posted on 09/18/2017 10:12:04 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: dila813

“DOWN PERISCOPE” with Kelsey Grammer........classic Saturday movie fare!

KYPD


38 posted on 09/18/2017 10:14:04 AM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: vikingd00d

He served on subs, he was a former president, but he was an idiot.

I wouldn’t have named a sub after him, but I have seen worse picks.


39 posted on 09/18/2017 10:17:06 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: Rebelbase

What’s with all the civilian radar and comm gear? This is obviously not a U S Navy sub.


40 posted on 09/18/2017 10:18:52 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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