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Illegal immigration in Southwest doubled over past four months
Washington Times ^ | 9/11/2017 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 09/13/2017 4:10:12 PM PDT by Freedom56v2

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To: Freedom56v2

The southern border is one location but we need to keep aware of the Far East,
Asia, etc numbers which are becoming as large as from the southern border.


21 posted on 09/13/2017 5:11:22 PM PDT by deport
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To: Freedom56v2

Wait, huh? Seriously? The gains are UP a ton since January, up in August from July, but this is a bad sign?

And if the pool is shrinking because fewer are coming over-—as almost all evidence indicates-—then ICE/border patrol are getting a MUCH higher percentage of the total.

Someone can’t do math.


22 posted on 09/13/2017 5:20:14 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Freedom56v2

Besides President Trump and his 62+ million voters.

23 posted on 09/13/2017 5:23:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Jonny7797

“I’ll take it a step further and say this is due in part to Trump calling for congress to legalize DACA.”

So these new illegals read Trump’s mind and came over before he made his pronouncements on DACA Obama’s CACA!

If they did come over.


24 posted on 09/13/2017 5:26:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: LS

Wait, huh? Seriously? The gains are UP a ton since January, up in August from July, but this is a bad sign?

And if the pool is shrinking because fewer are coming over-—as almost all evidence indicates-—then ICE/border patrol are getting a MUCH higher percentage of the total.

Someone can’t do math.


Well, that someone is the author of article and US Customs and Border Protection...their graphs are showing that the numbers of border crossing are increasing since April...From what I read, the pool of illegals crossing is not shrinking...it is increasing—tho less than last year.

From article:

The numbers are still lower than they were a year before under Mr. Obama, but the gains Mr. Trump made in his first months in office are dissipating.

OFFICIALS SAY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CAUGHT IS A ROUGH YARDSTICK FOR THE TOTAL FLOW, SO MORE APPREHENSIONS MEANS MORE PEOPLE ARE TRYING AND SUCCEEDING - IN GETTING THROUGH.

The spikes were apparent across a number of demographic sectors. Cubans, Haitians, illegal immigrant children traveling alone and families traveling together all posted increases.

Likewise every sector along the U.S.-Mexico border saw increases in the number of illegal immigrants nabbed by agents.

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Are you saying we should ignore this trend because it is still much better than last year’s numbers which were the worst ever—highest ever border crossings?

Trying to think of an analogy...

Would a business say: Since sales are much better than last year, we won’t worry even if sales are down by 50% since April...


25 posted on 09/13/2017 5:36:35 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: deport

The southern border is one location but we need to keep aware of the Far East,
Asia, etc numbers which are becoming as large as from the southern border.


Good points!

Don’t forget the “birth tourism” industry.

So sick of our doo-doo-nothing congress!


26 posted on 09/13/2017 5:41:26 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: chris37

It’s plain to see our government isn’t serious.


We are coming into an election year. I really feel we have to be heard—above the Chamber of Commerce monied lobbyists and the DACA-supporting media.

These doo-doo-nothing congresscritters need to know they will not get our votes if they act like demorats...


27 posted on 09/13/2017 5:43:57 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Grampa Dave

Grandpa Dave nails the truth again.


28 posted on 09/13/2017 5:50:47 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Thanks.

I have been posting about the Mexican interference with our election going back for decades.

No one including some of our FR people really want to address that reality.


29 posted on 09/13/2017 6:01:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

PING


30 posted on 09/13/2017 6:14:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Grampa Dave

I appreciate your posts on the subject.

Sadly, I am confident that there is rampant voter fraud in California and other states with large populations of illegals and democrats running the government.

I had thought one of the first things Trump should have done upon entering the oval office was to nominate Supreme Court Justices...Second thing was to push for voter ID. With one-party control of House and Senate and Executive branch, a voter ID law could and should have been passed.


31 posted on 09/13/2017 6:16:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

Wait? We caught almost twice as many illegals crossing last month compared to the prior month? This is bad news?

Sounds to me ICE is doing a better job.


32 posted on 09/13/2017 6:17:39 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Grimmy

Trump isn’t even fighting for the wall. He might pay lip service to it here and there, but he obviously care for it and will blame Congress in the end, when it’s never built. Trump hasn’t hired the army pf Border Patrol agents and he came out and basically said he’ll go out of his way to make DACA a LAW. You remember DACAright ... one of his biggest campaign promises? And there is NO way you or h e can pin that on Congress.

Story today: “Trump Has Always Backed Amnesty, White House Says” http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/12/trump-has-always-backed-amnesty-white-house-says/


33 posted on 09/13/2017 6:17:47 PM PDT by 198ml ("Profit")
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To: PJammers

Wait? We caught almost twice as many illegals crossing last month compared to the prior month? This is bad news?

Sounds to me ICE is doing a better job.


From the article:

Illegal immigration across the southwest border has doubled in the last four months, according to new government data that suggests the early gains of President Trump’s tenure are wearing off.

More than 30,000 illegal immigrants were nabbed in August, up 22 percent compared to July and up nearly 100 percent compared to April, when fewer than 16,000 illegal immigrants were arrested by the Border Patrol or stopped at ports of entry by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers.

The numbers are still lower than they were a year before under Mr. Obama, but the gains Mr. Trump made in his first months in office are dissipating.

Officials say the number of people caught is a rough yardstick for the total flow, so more apprehensions means more people are trying — and succeeding — in getting through.

The spikes were apparent across a number of demographic sectors. Cubans, Haitians, illegal immigrant children traveling alone and families traveling together all posted increases.

Likewise every sector along the U.S.-Mexico border saw increases in the number of illegal immigrants nabbed by agents.

Apprehensions are up because many more illegals are attempting to cross...if you recall, earlier in the year, border crossings were down by 70-80%.

To me just means we need to put down the “We are winning” champagne glasses and get to wor...be vigilant in making sure that the wall gets funded and we don’t get some defacto amnesty from this DACA CACA!

Here is what Paul Ryan said earlier this year:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/13/paul-ryan-past-dinner-nobody-wants-wall/

We have our work cut out for us!


34 posted on 09/13/2017 6:28:02 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

Until we get to zero illegals coming into our country; nothing is too harsh including the use of mini-guns shooting a thousand rounds a minute.


35 posted on 09/13/2017 6:28:27 PM PDT by Boomer (Can we ban the name associated with the initials HRC for a decade please?)
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To: Freedom56v2

This is because they have gotten the message from the treasonous swamp dwellers in Congress - NOTHING will be done and the free stuff will flow.


36 posted on 09/13/2017 6:36:23 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Freedom56v2
They don't see a wall going up, sanctuary cities and entire sanctuary States are springing up like wildflowers, political resistance against DACA has crumbled, and they see partial or full amnesty coming as any meaningful Washington resistance to illegal immigration totally collapses.

Why shouldn't the numbers skyrocket? Why should they stay in their old shithole countries when they can come to their new (soon-to-be shithole) country?

37 posted on 09/13/2017 6:38:52 PM PDT by Gritty (California has a million regulations where the Constitution no longer operates - Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Gritty

They don’t see a wall going up, sanctuary cities and entire sanctuary States are springing up like wildflowers, political resistance against DACA has crumbled, and they see partial or full amnesty coming as any meaningful Washington resistance to illegal immigration totally collapses.

Why shouldn’t the numbers skyrocket? Why should they stay in their old shithole countries when they can come to their new (soon-to-be shithole) country?


Excellent points!

I think your point about the Sanctuary cities and SANCTUARY STATES is a big part of their motivation...

And of course the hint of amnesty and no wall being built helps their motivation as well.


38 posted on 09/13/2017 6:46:23 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

What they are saying is that since we caught more illegals coming across the border, there are more people coming. How about ICE is doing a better job of catching illegals.

Say a store gets an average of 10 sales a day. The store decides to advertise, they hire a new manager who motivates his employees, he gives them the equipment to do thier job.

The next month they get 16 sales a day. A month later they get 30 sales a day.

The differece with a store is you are attracting people. ICE is ejected people. What you are seeing is less traffic coming in and ICE capturing a higher number of those that do.

Win. Win.


39 posted on 09/13/2017 6:56:20 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers

Yes, the number of illegals coming is increasing...there is more traffic coming into the US...

Several months ago we had less border rossings/apprehensions and everyone was crowing that we had 70-80% less border crossings/apprehensions because illegals knew Trump meant business-new sheriff in town, etc., people would be deported, no illegals would get to stay, etc....

Yet now we are crowing because there are more crossings and apprehensions (though less than last year)...

This does not make sense to me...Seems to me that we cannot have it both ways...

Sorry, I don’t see it as a win.

We need to stop hinting at amnesty, expanding sanctuary cities and states, and build the damn wall!!!


40 posted on 09/13/2017 7:04:45 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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