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Paul Ryan: ‘Not in our nation’s interest’ to kick out Dreamers
nypost.com ^ | 9/13/17 | Bob Fredericks

Posted on 09/13/2017 2:37:19 PM PDT by drpix

House Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday that it was "not in our nation's interest" to expel the roughly 800,000 young people protected from deportation by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

"I do believe that kicking these 800,000 kids out to countries that they have probably not been to since they were toddlers, countries that speak languages that they may not even know, is not in our nation’s interest," Ryan said...

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; aliens; daca; illegals; immigration; ryan; speakerryan; speakerryandaca; trumpdaca; trumpillegals; wall
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To: Freedom56v2

What you fail to grasp, is yes, sure the numbers have doubled since April.

They are still 40% lower than they were last year this time.

That’s 20,000 fewer per month even now.

So the headline that says rates have increased 100% since April, while factual, is ultimately very misleading.


81 posted on 09/13/2017 3:43:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: Freedom56v2

Should have thanked your for the thanks.


82 posted on 09/13/2017 3:45:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: AmusedBystander

You people are ridiculous. Just because someone disagrees with Trump it makes them nevertrumpers. I’m not a sycophant but you can be if you want.


83 posted on 09/13/2017 3:48:11 PM PDT by sheana
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To: drpix

Time to get rid of trash like Ryan and mitch,
Or time for a real conservative party.


84 posted on 09/13/2017 3:51:42 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I do grasp...however, your comment that immigration is down 70 to 80 percent is misleading as well. It is not anymore. The trend is away from that percentage and has been for several months.

Maybe instead of defending your initial stat, you should consider the article and the stats to be a yellow flag—a warning that we are losing ground on this issue...They are increasingly coming because they don’t think there will be a wall and they think DACA will continue.

I get the feeling you are going to endorse everything Trump does because he is our guy. Sorry, I have to weigh each action on its merits. I am very happy with some actions taken by this administration, less so with others...but I decide each based on the merit. Regarding illegal immigration?

Bottom line, we have not had a victory on illegal immigration or the border wall, and We the People would be better off if we would stop claiming we are winning and get busy lobbying our “representatives” because we could lose big on this issue if we do nothing and status quo continues.


85 posted on 09/13/2017 4:00:54 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: DoughtyOne

No problem...

We are on the same team...


86 posted on 09/13/2017 4:13:17 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

20,000 a month less IS NOT worse.

Good freakin grief.

I’ve never seen such a bunch of namby pambie idiots, tossing good new to the wind every single day here, almost hour by hour.

Are you happy we have 20,000 fewer coming in each month or not?

That’s still almost a quarter of a million fewer people per year.

The wall is coming, and that’s going to bring it to about zero.

HELLOOOOO!


87 posted on 09/13/2017 4:13:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: tumblindice

Heb Boosh’s family speaks Spansh at home.


Did not know that.


88 posted on 09/13/2017 4:14:23 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

Look, things are going to fluctuate. Okay, it’s not the 70-80% I stated. 40% is sill a massive figure.

The point is, we will have 240,000 fewer people looking to get on something like DACA.

That is a good thing.


89 posted on 09/13/2017 4:16:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: drpix

“...Jose Aguiluz, a D.C. native who was brought by his family from Honduras...”

News flash for the article’s writer(s). He’s NOT a native. He’s an illegal invader; regardless of his age at the time of his invasion.


90 posted on 09/13/2017 4:26:22 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: sheana

Yep, after he gives up on the wall. Too bad he is not a student of history and doesnt remember Bush Sr and what happened to him.


91 posted on 09/13/2017 4:26:34 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: DoughtyOne

Illegal immigration in Southwest doubled over past four months
Washington Times ^ | 9/11/2017 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 9/13/2017, 4:10:12 PM by Freedom56v2

llegal immigration across the southwest border has doubled in the last four months, according to new government data that suggests the early gains of President Trump’s tenure are wearing off.

More than 30,000 illegal immigrants were nabbed in August, up 22 percent compared to July and up nearly 100 percent compared to April, when fewer than 16,000 illegal immigrants were arrested by the Border Patrol or stopped at ports of entry by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers.

The numbers are still lower than they were a year before under Mr. Obama, but the gains Mr. Trump made in his first months in office are dissipating.

Officials say the number of people caught is a rough yardstick for the total flow, so more apprehensions means more people are trying — and succeeding — in getting through.

The spikes were apparent across a number of demographic sectors. Cubans, Haitians, illegal immigrant children traveling alone and families traveling together all posted increases.

Likewise every sector along the U.S.-Mexico border saw increases in the number of illegal immigrants nabbed by agents.


92 posted on 09/13/2017 4:26:43 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: DoughtyOne

20,000 a month less IS NOT worse.

Good freakin grief.

I’ve never seen such a bunch of namby pambie idiots, tossing good new to the wind every single day here, almost hour by hour.

Are you happy we have 20,000 fewer coming in each month or not?

That’s still almost a quarter of a million fewer people per year.

The wall is coming, and that’s going to bring it to about zero.

HELLOOOOO!


Wow, maybe what I said about same team is not true...You are really quite obnoxious when someone disagrees with you. I am not a nambie pambie idiot...I don’t appreciate being called names simply because I disagree with your perspective.

The trend is more illegals are coming across the border. Yes, fewer than last year, but the trend is not increasing or holding, it is decreasing. But we are supposed to just ignore that and celebrate.

I don’t consider that trend to be good news...as the article states, more apprehensions means more crossings.

Again, you can cheer and claim we are winning immigration...I plan to try to do what I can to put pressure on my congresscritter to fund the wall and end DACA.

GOODBYE!


93 posted on 09/13/2017 4:28:52 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: OregonRancher

Stating misleading facts over and over won’t change the truth.

The numbers of intercepted illegal aliens were down 20,000 in August 2017 vs August 2016.

That’s a 240,000 per year rate.

Are you glad we will have fewer people here, or are you still just trilled to downplay the progress we are seeing.


94 posted on 09/13/2017 4:30:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: drpix

“Not in our nations interest” to keep Paul Ryan in the country. Send him to Saudi Arabia where he belongs.


95 posted on 09/13/2017 4:31:06 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: Freedom56v2

N U T . J O B

20,000 per month fewer people is still 40% lower than last year this same time period.

IDIOT!


96 posted on 09/13/2017 4:31:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

There is some question about Ryan ever being for the wall.

Trump must come up with the money. The Mexican people, not the American people are supposed to pay. It is I believe already authorized.

All Trump has to do is to do what he boasted thousands of times he would do.


97 posted on 09/13/2017 4:33:11 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the ground)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes keep cheering...

I asked you to stop name calling...it shows you are shallow and have no valid argument. Sheesh...Don’t post to me again.


98 posted on 09/13/2017 4:34:48 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

When I see a nut-job idiot trying to downplay progress. I’m going to address them as a nut-job idiot trying to downplay progress.

Any questions?


99 posted on 09/13/2017 4:39:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: drpix

I’ll agree with Ryan 99%. Deporting 800,000 illegal invaders will cost a lot of money, and that’s a waste.

I have a better option. Deport 8,000 of these criminals, with court orders barring them from ever returning to our country - and ten years in prison if they come back legally or illegally. Then give the remainder of the Dreamers and the rest of the 12 million plus invaders 30 days to self-deport or face two years in prison followed by deportation and the same ban. My way would save 99% of the cost of fixing the problem, and that is in our nation’s interest.


100 posted on 09/13/2017 4:41:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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