Posted on 09/13/2017 1:20:08 PM PDT by metmom
More than 100 people were evacuated from a Florida nursing home Wednesday after six people were reported dead at the Hollywood facility, whose residents were suffering from intense heat caused by a lack of electricity after deadly Hurricane Irma swept through.
Irma may have moved on from Florida, but lingering dangers caused by the storm, including carbon monoxide poisoning and heat-related incidents caused by a lack of air conditioning, remain in the Sunshine State, as millions wait for power to be restored.
Officials in Hollywood said at least six people died and 115 people were evacuated from Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills, located about 20 miles north of Miami.
"We’re conducting a criminal investigation inside," Hollywood Police Chief Tom Sanchez said. "We believe at this time they may be related to the loss of power in the storm. We’re conducting a criminal investigation, not ruling anything out at this time.”
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A little before 4:00, Liz Clayman was reporting Fox had heard from a “reliable source”, that they are taking out SO many bodies from the Keys.
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I wonder what her definition of “SO” many is? One death is too many, but I don’t think 8 thus far is unexpected, nor a particularly large number considering the situation with the storm/topography exposure of the Keys, etc.
https://keysnews.com/article/story/major-update-from-monroe-county-emergency-management/
As the confirmed death toll in the Florida Keys reached eight Wednesday, Monroe County Mayor George Neugent and FEMA estimated that more than 90 percent of homes in the Keys sustained damage or were destroyed.
Of the eight deaths, six are in the unincorporated area of the county and the rest were in Key West, according to county officials. Of the 40 injured, 30 were in the county and 10 in Key West, according to county officials.
I also discovered mine is very economical. It only used 50 gallons of propane during the whole outage.
Oh, no.
I’ll disagree with both of you all. Best fuel for a generator is natural gas. No storage issues.
I have hypothalamus damage.
I have since I was child evidently, although it wasn’t diagnosed until I had a bout with hypothermia in the marine corps.
Heat like this could kill me but I am not an invalid in a rest home.
You don’t sound like “someone with a cold heart.”
You sound like an ignoramus pretending to have medical knowledge which you actually lack completely.
Drudge is reporting 8 now......sad........Rest in the peace you deserve in the bosom of Abraham..................
Bill Nelson has descended like a ghoul on the facility. He is lecturing on the horror of this event.
Hey Bill: your party wants to have single payer—which will create MORE problems like what happened today.
The generator may have done what it was designed to do but may not have ever been designed to handle the very large electrical load HVAC demands. I worked in a Tennessee 5 story 200 patient facility. We had a 200 amp generator. It would power lights and the emergency power receptacles, operate one of three elevators, power the kitchen and power the Boiler System, the phone system, Fire Alarm, and that was about it.
Poor design years ago can cause failures many years later. I'll give an example. Our facility had a generator and was supposed to be able to operate generator and boilers for almost two weeks from an underground fuel tank.
At some point in construction a cost cutting decision was made to use city utility water for the generator engines cooling system rather than a self contained radiator. Well one night the utility lost a \n entire substation which powered our building and as well powered the utilities pumping station for utility water. After about 30 minutes the engine tripped off on high temperature and there was no power for over 4 hours. You would think that would trigger a correction. Nope.
Here is a worse one. Same facility. The State Inspector Generals Office demanded a Sprinkler System {water not CO2} be placed in the Electrical Switchboard and Emergency Generator Room. We {the employees and our Boss} protested to no avail. This room had a 460 volt 2000 amp electrical system. The 2000 amp system needed because the HVAC Chiller pulled 1200-1400 amps on start up and about 300-350 amps for running once up to speed.
I wondered if this would happen or if all those who stayed were in solid shelters. Of course, there could be just ghoulish rumors. After Ike the rumors of bodies floating out to the Gulf by the hundreds were around for weeks. It never happened though, thankfully.
I’m actually surprised Fox ran with this. Normally in a situation like this the rumors have started. I haven’t read anything suggesting many deaths.
Of interest to you both:
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Days-Memorial-Storm-Ravaged-Hospital/dp/0307718964
Actually, if the left has their way, people will die long before they need nursing homes.
I have back up power from a gas powered generator...3600 watt
I guess I’m not sensible...
True, if you have natural gas service, but I don’t. A 500 gallon propane tank is a bit of a sight, but it does the job.
I hate to say it but meanwhile Disneyworld is up, running, full of people in air conditioned comfort. They should have opened up some resort rooms for the elderly to shelter in.
Red Cross admits to staying in high-priced Houston hotel
abc13.com ^ | September 11, 2017 | Ted Oberg
Posted on 9/12/2017 5:50:32 PM by lionstar
And our priorities are just where?
These type of systems will go down. If for example the unit tore up requiring a couple days repair there is a work around which is bringing in a flatbed tractor trailer with a portable chiller on it and hooking it up using the buildings electrical system and chill water loop. It takes 4-8 hours to connect such a system especially if it has not been done at the facility previously. You also have to allow for transport time as these type of units are limited and only in larger cities. Ours came out of Atlanta 4.5 hours away when we needed it. I think Miami also had one but under these conditions would be useless as it was an issue with power coming to the building. Under hurricane conditions I would expect a local utility would loose partial or all power. BTW local utilities are well aware of these facilities and their power demands and special requirements.
Solid info to file in the ol' memory banks. Maybe someday, the information if applied, could help as preventive.
its was horribly hot...
so hooked up our generator outside with a cord running thur the window to at least get a fan going in the basement for our company, which included 3 small children...
we all went to bed but then it struck me....the windows by the generator are open and what if fumes come into the house!
well we decided that all of us, company included would just have to sleep in a hot house...no way we're we going to take a chance on CO poisoning...
those nursing home patients didn’t have families?....that’s the gist of something like this....blood takes care of blood an no matter how much nursing homes cost, they can never ever care for a loved one as much as family...
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