Hurricane Irma Live Thread Part II

Jeb will be running the cabal when 41 is gone,sorry for the political jab but cant stand the bushes.

A FReeper posted earlier that they had family stranded on St Martin, on their honeymoon, along with other honeymooners, awaiting embassy assisted rescue.

I just accidentally hit my remote and I hit on that dork with the glasses from MSNBC who was talking,in Miami, to a woman about climate change. Climate change at a time like this.

They are truly insane.

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Camille may have even been worse. I remember the story of a survivor who floated over the town of Pass Christian and never saw a building or a tree or a telephone pole. Back in 1969, before the days of satellite phones, those of us upstate were in the dark with regard to what was happening after the power went out on the coast. It was an eerie and hopeless feeling. Wind gusts from Camille exceeded 200 mph. We were more than 200 miles inland (Greenwood, MS) and still had 90 mph winds.

Hurricane Camille was the second-most intense tropical cyclone to strike the United States on record. The most intense storm of the 1969 Atlantic hurricane season, Camille formed as a tropical depression on August 14 south of Cuba from a long-tracked tropical wave. Located in a favorable environment for strengthening, the storm quickly intensified into a Category 2 hurricane before striking the western part of the nation on August 15. Emerging into the Gulf of Mexico, Camille underwent another period of rapid intensification and became a Category 5 hurricane the next day as it moved northward towards the Louisiana–Mississippi region.

Despite weakening slightly on August 17, the hurricane quickly re-intensified back to a Category 5 before it made landfall in Waveland, Mississippi early on August 18 with a pressure of 900 mbar (26.58 inHg). This was the second-lowest pressure recorded for a U.S. landfall; only the 1935 Labor Day hurricane had a lower pressure at landfall. As Camille pushed inland, it quickly weakened and was a tropical depression by the time it was over the Ohio Valley. Once it emerged offshore, it was able to restrengthen to a strong tropical storm, before it became extratropical, being absorbed by a cold front over the North Atlantic on August 22.

Maximum wind speeds near the coastline were estimated to have been about 175 mph (280 km/h) with a pressure of 900 mbar (hPa; 26.58 inHg).[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camille

A few more notable cyclones/hurricanes:

Hurricane Wilma was the most intense tropical cyclone ever recorded in the Atlantic basin, as well as the most intense recorded in the western hemisphere until Hurricane Patricia in 2015. Part of the record-breaking 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, which included three of the top ten most intense Atlantic hurricanes ever (along with #4 Rita and #7 Katrina), Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth hurricane, sixth major hurricane, fourth Category 5 hurricane, and second-most destructive hurricane of the 2005 season. A tropical depression formed in the Caribbean Sea near Jamaica on October 15, headed westward, and two days later intensified into a tropical storm which turned abruptly southward and was named Wilma. Wilma continued to strengthen, and eventually became a hurricane on October 18. Shortly thereafter, explosive intensification occurred, and in only 24 hours, Wilma became a Category 5 hurricane with wind speeds of 185 miles per hour (298 km/h).

Wilma was the most recent major hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States until Hurricane Harvey made landfall in southern Texas on August 26, 2017, ending a record length of time – slightly over 11 years and 10 months – without any major hurricanes making landfall in the United States. Wilma was also the last hurricane to strike the state of Florida until Hurricane Hermine did so nearly 11 years later in 2016, another record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma

Hurricane Patricia was the second-most intense tropical cyclone on record worldwide, behind Typhoon Tip in 1979, with a minimum atmospheric pressure of 872 mbar (hPa; 25.75 inHg).[1] Originating from a sprawling disturbance near the Gulf of Tehuantepec, south of Mexico, in mid-October 2015, Patricia was first classified a tropical depression on October 20. Initial development was slow, with only modest strengthening within the first day of its classification. The system later became a tropical storm and was named Patricia, the twenty-fourth named storm of the annual hurricane season. Exceptionally favorable environmental conditions fueled explosive intensification on October 22. A well-defined eye developed within an intense central dense overcast and Patricia grew from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane in just 24 hours—a near-record pace. On October 23, the hurricane achieved its record peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 215 mph (345 km/h).[nb 1][nb 2] This made it the most intense tropical cyclone on record in the Western Hemisphere, and the strongest globally in terms of 1-minute maximum sustained winds.

Typhoon Tip, known in the Philippines as Typhoon Warling, was the largest and most intense tropical cyclone ever recorded. The nineteenth storm and twelfth typhoon of the 1979 Pacific typhoon season, Tip developed out of a disturbance from the monsoon trough on October 4 near Pohnpei. Initially, a tropical storm to the northwest hindered the development and motion of Tip, though after it tracked farther north Tip was able to intensify. After passing Guam, Tip rapidly intensified and reached peak winds of 305 km/h (190 mph)[nb 1] and a worldwide record-low sea-level pressure of 870 mbar (870.0 hPa; 25.69 inHg) on October 12. At its peak strength, it was also the largest tropical cyclone on record with a wind diameter of 2,220 km (1,380 mi). Tip slowly weakened as it continued west-northwestward and later turned to the northeast in response to an approaching trough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tip

Hurricane Gilbert was an extremely powerful tropical cyclone that formed during the 1988 Atlantic hurricane season that peaked at Category 5 strength and brought widespread destruction to the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. It was the most intense hurricane ever observed in the Atlantic basin, until Hurricane Wilma surpassed it during 2005. Gilbert was also one of the largest tropical cyclones ever observed in the Atlantic basin. At one point, its tropical storm-force winds measured 575 mi (925 km) in diameter. In addition, Gilbert was the most intense tropical cyclone in recorded history to strike Mexico.[1]

Severe Tropical Cyclone Olivia was a powerful cyclone that produced the highest non-tornadic winds on record on Barrow Island, 408 kilometres per hour (254 mph), breaking the record of 372 km/h (231 mph) on Mount Washington in the United States in April 1934. The 13th named storm of the 1995–96 Australian region cyclone season, Olivia formed on 3 April 1996 to the north of Australia's Northern Territory. The storm moved generally to the southwest, gradually intensifying off Western Australia. On 8 April, Olivia intensified into a severe tropical cyclone and subsequently turned more to the south, steered by a passing trough. On 10 April, Olivia produced the worldwide record strongest gust on Barrow Island, and on the same day the cyclone made landfall near Varanus Island. The storm quickly weakened over land, dissipating over the Great Australian Bight on 12 April.

The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane was the most intense hurricane to make landfall in the United States on record, as well as the third-most intense Atlantic hurricane ever.[1] The second tropical cyclone, second hurricane, and second major hurricane of the 1935 Atlantic hurricane season, the Labor Day Hurricane was the first of three Category 5 hurricanes to strike the United States at that intensity during the 20th century (the other two being 1969's Hurricane Camille and 1992's Hurricane Andrew). After forming as a weak tropical storm east of the Bahamas on August 29, it slowly proceeded westward and became a hurricane on September 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_Labor_Day_hurricane

Hurricane Mitch was the second deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record. The storm was the thirteenth tropical storm, ninth hurricane, and third major hurricane of the 1998 hurricane season. Along with Hurricane Georges, Mitch was the most notable hurricane in the season. At the time, Hurricane Mitch was the strongest Atlantic hurricane observed in the month of October, though it has since been surpassed by Hurricane Wilma of the 2005 season. The hurricane matched the fourth most intense Atlantic hurricane on record (it has since dropped to seventh). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Mitch

The Great Galveston Hurricane[1], known regionally as the Great Storm of 1900 [2][3][4], was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people, making it the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane

The 1886 Indianola Hurricane destroyed the town of Indianola, Texas and as such had a significant impact on the history and economic development of Texas.[1] It was the fifth hurricane of the 1886 Atlantic hurricane season and one of the most intense hurricanes ever to hit the United States. ..As it approached the coast of Texas, it intensified to an 150 mph (240 km/h) Category 4 hurricane. At the time, it was tied for the strongest hurricane ever recorded (the first reported, and confirmed, Category 5 hurricane would be in 1928). On August 19, winds increased in Indianola, and, on August 20, it made landfall as a catastrophic Category 4 hurricane. Pressure at landfall is estimated to be 925 mbar, which would make it the fifth strongest hurricane known to have hit the United States, and by winds, it is tied for the fourth most powerful hurricane to hit the U.S. mainland. The hurricane moved inland and eventually dissipated on August 21 in northeast Texas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Indianola_hurricane

The 1933 Atlantic hurricane season was the second most active Atlantic hurricane season on record, with 20 storms forming in the northwest Atlantic Ocean. The season ran through the summer and the first half of fall in 1933, with activity as early as May and as late as November. A tropical cyclone was active for all but 13 days from June 28 to October 7. The year was surpassed in total number of tropical cyclones by the 2005 season, which broke the record with 28 storms. Tropical cyclones that did not approach populated areas or shipping lanes, especially if they were relatively weak and of short duration, may have remained undetected. Https:/ /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 1878 Atlantic hurricane season lasted from the summer through much of the fall. Records show that 1878 featured a relatively active hurricane season. A total of twelve storms were observed during the year. There were two tropical storms, eight hurricanes and two major hurricanes (Category 3+). However, in the absence of modern satellite and other remote-sensing technologies, only storms that affected populated land areas or encountered ships at sea were recorded, so the actual total could be higher. An undercount bias of zero to six tropical cyclones per year between 1851 and 1885 and zero to four per year between 1886 and 1910 has been estimated.[1] Of the known 1878 cyclones, both Hurricane Three and Hurricane Four were first documented in 1995 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1878_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 1893 Atlantic hurricane season ran through the summer and the first half of fall in 1893. The 1893 season was fairly active, with 12 tropical storms forming, 10 of which became hurricanes. Of those, 5 became major hurricanes. This season proved to be a very deadly season, with two different hurricanes each causing over two thousand (2000) deaths in the United States; at the time, the season was the deadliest in U.S. history. The season was one of two on the record, along with the 1998 Atlantic hurricane season, when 4 Atlantic hurricanes were active on the same day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1893_Atlantic_hurricane_season

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, “If the geniuses can’t predict the path of a hurricane (as they have clearly demonstrated in the past week), what gives them the authority to tell us that dumping millions of dollars into Al Gore’s pockets will stop climate change.”

Mine too. I hate commercials, except for the very best of them.

John West salmon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU

Carling Black label. You kind of need to already know the story of 617 Squadron RAF to fully appreciate it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABrdnmuyIg

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actually with the advent of small subs the keys at no longer a smuggling haven they can spread the risk.
We still have some corruption but nothing like the old days. actually its been along time since we had claims paid down here and even now our codes are far better than anywhere else on any coast in the US.
Looks at Texas only 20% of them even had flood insurance. You cant get a mtge. down here without it.
It’s our fault for not self-insuring we need to stop depending on others.

Wearing multiple hats today—daughter to evacuated elderly mom, securing property for the storm, and pretending to work for a living.

Hate to see all that,maybe they have a chance to start all over when its all over.
Stringent BUilding codes are always a great start....

God bless you!!

Is there a link for that?

Somebody might want to get some fully charged nuclear power plant backup batteries loaded and on a chopper just in case.

Models show a hairpin turn NORTH and not into the gulf

Keep thinking that. They said the same to Katrina too. Turned out that Katrina threaded the needled and destroyed NOLA.

If this Hurricane does indeed go up FL's butt, I'll drink a case of the skunkiest beer known to man.

So do you think cat 2 through the south up to Ocala-ish, then tapering off after that? I have family in Lake Wakes, Lakeland, St. Pete, north Tampa, and Gainesville. I’d love to hear what you’re thinking with what you know so far.

Like everyone else his predictions have moved all over the place

Yup.

Keep thinking that. They said the same to Katrina too. Turned out that Katrina threaded the needled and destroyed NOLA. If this Hurricane does indeed go up FL's butt, I'll drink a case of the skunkiest beer known to man.

It's like one of those situations where EVERYONE is sure it's going to go north that it's almost inevitable that it won't!

Old joke from the Soviet Union:
“As long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work.”
(smile break)

Yes, it was on Breitbart’s page, but now it’s not there anymore. Everybody is pushing the Up The Gut trajectory model.