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To: scottinoc

Many trumpsters drank the Donald’s kool-aid. He’s a life-long democrat and big government liberal. The more he shows his true colors, the more ridiculous the justifications from his rabid supporters will become.


18 posted on 09/07/2017 8:17:44 AM PDT by wny
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To: wny
The more he shows his true colors, the more ridiculous the justifications from his rabid supporters will become.

I'm not in total disagreement with your characterization of Trump, but this comment has me scratching my head. What exactly have his "true colors" been, to date?

20 posted on 09/07/2017 8:19:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: wny

They are going to cheer his single-payer plan as the best possible single-payer plan.

Like I know we hate Ryan and McConnell, but Good Lord, we are celebrating a deal with Pelosi. I don’t even know what to think at this point.


25 posted on 09/07/2017 8:31:27 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: wny

>>Many trumpsters drank the Donald’s kool-aid. He’s a life-long democrat and big government liberal.

Your understanding of American politics in the 21st century is pathetic.


31 posted on 09/07/2017 8:41:30 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: wny

Do you ever allow the facts to get in the way of your opinions?

Life Long Democrat Untrue and Misleading.
Trump was a Democrat prior to 1987. In 1987, Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan.

In 1999, Trump switched to the Reform Party and ran a presidential exploratory campaign for its nomination. After his run, Trump left the party in 2001 due to the involvement of David Duke, Pat Buchanan, and Lenora Fulani.

From 2001 to 2008, Trump identified himself as a Democrat, but in 2008, he endorsed Republican John McCain for President. In 2009, he officially changed his party registration to Republican. In December 2011, Trump became an independent for five months before returning to the Republican Party, where he later pledged to stay.

Big Government Liberal Another Lie which Anti Trump people have created from the thin soup of Donald Trump stating the NIH worked in Britain at that time but wouldn’t work for America and his statement that we need a saftey net because we can’t leave people to die on the street.

The characterization of this as Big Government is jaw dropping since we already have a saftey net, hospitals can’t refuse treatment etc. Also POTUS is cutting federal regulations hand over foot, eliminating federal positions, eliminating duplication, returning power to the States. His tenure is a sea change in reversing Big Government.

The only people who look ridiculous are the Never Trumpers who have to ignore the truth to avoid the embarassment of admitting to themselves they are wrong.


33 posted on 09/07/2017 8:44:02 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: wny
More idiotic double talk from a never trumper.

His administration has been very conservative so far.

It is the House and Senate who are selling us out.

40 posted on 09/07/2017 8:59:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: wny
Many trumpsters drank the Donald’s Kool-Aid

I for one continue to drink deeply the refreshing Kool-Aid of pro-America policies and trust the president to get the big things right (strong military, protecting the border, strengthening the economy, protecting the constitution with good judges). He's proven in the first 6 months that he's not a go-along-get-along Republican, but a pragmatist, populist, nationalist (in the best sense of the word), and ultimately a conservative in all the ways that matter.

42 posted on 09/07/2017 9:01:43 AM PDT by scottinoc
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It was never my expectation that he was going to be a true blue conservative. I had always only expected to get 50% out of him. But my expectations of Jeb and Rubio and Kasich where that I would be perpetually to stabbed in the back. Pulling out of the Paris Accord pretty allows him a lot of mistakes in my book. No Republican and no Democrat would have pulled out


48 posted on 09/07/2017 9:14:43 AM PDT by BRL
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To: wny

Trump is a liberal and life long Democrat? Where did you get that? Who did you support during the election? Boosh? Clinton?


52 posted on 09/07/2017 9:26:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: wny

“Many trumpsters drank the Donald’s kool-aid.”

No way- it’s the exact opposite.

For decades, conservatives drank the GOP Kool-Aid. So dumb, so gullible. The GOP has always talked about free market, smaller government and cutting spending, taxes and regulations in order to get elected, but it’s all lies.

They play this game in congress where they work out behind closed doors which of them can vote against a spending bill, against raising the debt ceiling, against a new tax, regulation or entitlement - and still make sure it gets passed!

It’s all for show - they’re even called “show votes”. There are usually enough Republicans with safe seats who can afford to vote with the Dems and make sure the leftist agenda is carried out, while the Republicans facing a tough primary challenge are permitted to vote conservative so they can go back and tell the voters at home how conservative they are. It’s all rigged - they’re mostly swamp creatures.

Except for Trump, who you are calling a Democrat!

Trump is the most genuine conservative we’ve had as POTUS since Calvin Coolidge, and that includes RR.

Reagan was far better than Trump at promoting conservative principles and I liked it when he called the USSR an evil empire and when he fired the air traffic controllers - but Trump usually does something like that every day before breakfast.

All those 18 republican candidates he ran against in the primaries, he beat them by going to the right of them not the left, Ted Cruz who was supposed to be the true conservative. Then, everyone said Trump will now shift his platform to the center for the general election, like every republican. Instead he doubled down and went full conservative.

Now, fast forward to present day; the GOP’s favorite “show vote” of all time is when they make a big show about voting against raising the debt ceiling. It’s all for show - obviously the debt ceiling will get raised, they are just using the issue to pad their “conservative credentials” - all Trump did was ruin their little Kabuki theatre.

I say, good for him. Why should he let these GOPe fakers put on this farcical show vote each year just to fool conservative voters? I’m glad Trump short circuited the whole charade and blew their cover.

Trump supporters aren’t the ones drinking the Kool-Aid here.


59 posted on 09/07/2017 11:54:43 AM PDT by enumerated
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