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The Clintons and the Reality of a Long Marriage (they are role models...LOL)
cosmo ^ | July 2017 | Ada Calhoun

Posted on 08/24/2017 8:08:59 AM PDT by doug from upland

"In the spring of 1971, I met a girl…"

So began Bill Clinton's tender, rambling speech last night at the Democratic National Convention, a speech in which he described his wife Hillary as a natural leader, an excellent mother, and "the best change maker" he'd ever met. "I married my best friend," he said.

It was a reminder that the Clintons are still together after 45 years of marriage, in spite of all the public humiliations they've faced. They've outlasted the Gores, the first two Trump marriages, and the first two Gingrich marriages. Could the Clintons be — and having grown up in a culture where their relationship was often a punchline, I never thought I'd say this — good marriage role models?

Bill's uncharacteristically humble speech about his wife (which, as someone on Twitter joked, felt like a telling of their love story "in real time") made her relentless fix-it spirit sound virtuous, a little exhausting, sure, but also somehow charming. The speech did something many would argue not much else has in the past 25 years the Clintons have been on the national stage: it made Hillary sound like a real person, and their marriage like a real marriage — replete with water breaking and house purchasing, and, heaven help us, a Police Academy marathon.

He left some things out, more than a few critics noted after the speech was over. What about his affairs? That Bill's straying should reflect on Hillary is a drum Trump has been beating at least since May. In stump speeches, he has attacked Hillary for "enabling" her husband's infidelity, suggesting that doing so is a sign of weakness. He would never take back a woman who'd been unfaithful to him, he's reportedly said. (Though he's bragged about his own affairs, and about the benefits of having around "a young and beautiful piece of ass.")

As a Trump attack dog, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, too, tried similarly to discredit Hillary. "You don't care about women, you don't care about feminism," he's said. "You don't even care about your own dignity." (This from a man whose wife, the mother of his children, found out he was leaving her via a press conference.) And of course Newt Gingrich led the impeachment proceedings against Clinton while, we know now, cheating on his own wife.

These three men, nine marriages between them, know what it's like to want someone else — and to sleep with someone else — while married. So what are they really saying when they're making fun of the Clintons' marriage? What they're saying is that when you get the hots for someone else, you should have the "decency" to leave your spouse. This cheating-is-worse-than-divorce assumption is baked into mainstream society. People from across the political spectrum say that cheating should be a marital deal breaker, and that to tolerate or repeatedly forgive infidelity — especially someone as much of a hound as middle-aged Bill Clinton has often been painted — is to be a doormat, a punching bag, a fool. But that doesn't have to be true.

Relationship therapist Esther Perel says that monogamy "used to be one person for life. Today, monogamy is one person at a time." Good statistics on this are tough to come by, but it's generally believed that as many as three out of four married people will cheat at some point. Does that make all their marriages shams?

Certainly it's not always worth staying in a relationship if you're being cheated on and miserable about it (or if you're miserable, period). But maybe it's worth asking: could it ever be just as noble to stay and work on a marriage through tough times as it is to leave when you or the person you're married to strays? We've done a good job getting rid of the stigma around divorce, but in doing so, have created one around the decision to keeping your vow to stay together no matter what.

Bill's speech made a case for his wife as president, but maybe it also made the case that working through infidelity could pay off, and that staying married could be creative and exciting. "I've lived a long, full, blessed life," Bill said. "It really took off when I met and fell in love with that girl." Lord knows he could have had a lot of fun single. And Hillary could have put her husband's recklessness behind her like a bad haircut and moved on to continue her change-making and achievements without him too. But she stayed. And now they get to be doting grandparents together, mutually supporting each other in their latest acts, and potentially becoming the first married to couple to ever both be President, which will make a good Christmas letter.

"What I admire most about Hillary," Michelle Obama said in her own much praised convention speech, "is that she never buckles under pressure. She never takes the easy way out. And Hillary Clinton has never quit on anything in her life." That stubbornness is a trait for which last night Bill seemed particularly grateful. In his speech he was a husband who, Rebecca Traister wrote in New York magazine, "was managing, for once in his life, a moment of self-control and of submission." Seeing him that way — humble, smitten — made it look like Hillary's investment in him may have been a smart bet, like maybe she saw in him the potential to be just this kind of partner.

"Everything she touched, she made better," Bill Clinton said this spring at a stump speech for his wife soon after Trump started attacking their marriage. Bill was talking about her rampant do-gooding, but he could have been defending their life together. In the Clinton's marriage model, you screw up. You forgive. You grow. And you grow old, together, making new memories and celebrating old ones with the same person you've known since she was "a girl," someone you fell in love with many years ago in the spring.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons; hillary; marriage; monica; x42
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To: doug from upland

What this article really tells you is that Cosmo is run by a bunch of 50 something and 60 something, bitter old liberal women who are still crying over Hillary’s failure to “shatter the glass ceiling.”


21 posted on 08/24/2017 8:23:49 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: doug from upland
I still remember the day (back in 1981) when I sat at a diner outside Little Rock and overheard a couple of guys talking about someone called Bill Clinton.

This is how the conversation went:

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"Did you hear Bill Clinton wants to run for president?"

"You are kidding? President? How is he going to do that with his woman problem?"

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So, good marriage role models?

They have spent most their married life shagging other people. When they ran for prez the first time they had to be taught how to show affection to each other while they were on the campaign trail. Yes, someone had to coach them how to put their hands on each other and how to hug and how to do that kiss on the cheek.

Pardon me while I barf.

22 posted on 08/24/2017 8:24:40 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: V_TWIN
Always thought it was more of a business arrangement for convenience.

Legal one too? Wifey testifying against hubby and vice a versa?

23 posted on 08/24/2017 8:30:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: doug from upland

Speaking of creepy, how is Bill doing these days?

Still boinking the energizer bunny?


24 posted on 08/24/2017 8:33:25 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: doug from upland
This is the photograph of the loving couple that was released when the Monica Lewinski storm was raging
and Bill was denying that he had sexual relations with "that woman".

I guess it was supposed to convince the world that love, tenderness and domestic harmony prevailed in the Clinton White House.

I think of it as "The Bay Of Pigs".


25 posted on 08/24/2017 8:33:40 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: doug from upland

Clinton’s are the birds of a feather. A team made in HELL, sicced upon our nation by Satan.


26 posted on 08/24/2017 8:36:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: doug from upland
And then I got more friends. Some of them didn't want to be friends. But I forced them to be friends.

But, I never, never had sex with that woman".

27 posted on 08/24/2017 8:39:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: doug from upland

I guess Bill has a kink for the scent of farts, boiled cabbage and urine.


28 posted on 08/24/2017 8:49:32 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Beer! Because you can't drink bacon!)
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To: doug from upland
They ARE role models...from Hell
29 posted on 08/24/2017 8:53:28 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: doug from upland

ROFL!!! What a marriage ... Bill and Hill have so much in common. They’ll both chase anything in a skirt, for example ...


30 posted on 08/24/2017 8:55:31 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Wow that girl has some prominent features. I wonder if Bill was curious about her???


31 posted on 08/24/2017 8:57:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: doug from upland

They are white


32 posted on 08/24/2017 8:57:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: miss marmelstein
I always loved that story of Clinton, when governor, cradling Baby Chelsea while singing to the tune of “Brahm’s Lullaby” “I want a divorce, I want a divorce!”

ARKANSAS GOVERNOR'S MANSION, FEBRUARY, 1980

A New Arrival


33 posted on 08/24/2017 8:57:40 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: doug from upland

Funny stuff from Cosmo.


34 posted on 08/24/2017 8:58:05 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Second Amendment. NOW more than ever!)
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To: Snickering Hound

Is that a real picture? What kind of airhead woman/girl dresses like that at that kind of event?


35 posted on 08/24/2017 9:01:16 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: o-n-money

45y as a walking humidor.


36 posted on 08/24/2017 9:03:48 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: All

Bill and Hillary haven’t slept in the same zip code for the last 30 years.


37 posted on 08/24/2017 9:04:59 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: sanjuanbob
45y as a walking humidor.


38 posted on 08/24/2017 9:19:26 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: doug from upland

Clinton’s screwing history is in the Hefner realm.

I wish a Bill Clinton like husband on everyone of the stupid giggling girls who contributed to this stupid Cosmo op-ed.
Let’s see if they are as forgiving as Hillary Peron.


39 posted on 08/24/2017 9:26:45 AM PDT by CaptainK (No collusion.No obstruction.He's a leaker.)
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To: doug from upland

That is a bodacious slur on every Golden Anniversary + married couple.


40 posted on 08/24/2017 9:37:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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