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How California gun owners are legally keeping their AR-15 rifles
Fox News ^ | Aug 23, 2017 | Hollie McKay

Posted on 08/23/2017 9:19:23 PM PDT by upchuck

keeping their AR-15 rifles Hollie McKay By Hollie McKay Published August 23, 2017 Fox News A California 'featureless' rifle with fixed stock, no pistol grip, muzzle brake, maximum 10-round capacity magazines. It has a regular magazine catch. NRA/CMP competition rules were modified in 2017 to accommodate rifles like these from restrictive law states. A California 'featureless' rifle with fixed stock, no pistol grip, muzzle brake, maximum 10-round capacity magazines. It has a regular magazine catch. NRA/CMP competition rules were modified in 2017 to accommodate rifles like these from restrictive law states. It seems California lawmakers’ efforts to force rifle owners to register their personal details, or resort to cumbersome reloading or giving up their arms altogether, may have missed the mark.

Although months behind schedule, the State of California’s Department of Justice (DOJ) this week opened up its online registration for gun owners to enroll their bullet-button toting AR-15 rifles – now deemed to be “assault weapons” – in line with a controversial set of sweeping gun control laws signed into state law last year.

But gunmakers and owners say they already have come up with creative workarounds to be legally compliant but avoid giving the government even more personal information.

“The registration is seen by many as a trap to purge the owner since they ask for very specific information about acquisition of the original rifle that most owners don’t have or remember,” Steven Lieberman, a California-based attorney and founder of firearms training company Artemis Defense, told Fox News. “As a result, the ‘guesstimate’ as most would, they are potentially committing perjury.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; california
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The CA legislature gets more creative in banning weapons and the weapon owners get more creative in finding ways to get past the laws.

Prediction: Weapons owners win.

1 posted on 08/23/2017 9:19:23 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

They will follow Seattle and put a big tax on ammo.


2 posted on 08/23/2017 9:23:07 PM PDT by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Baynative

You already have to provide ID just to buy ammo.

One you’ve bought the ammo, they know what you own, or at least have some very good guesses.

This is something I wish the federal government would resolve, and slap down just like sanctuary cities.

Either we have a U. S. Constitution or we don’t.


3 posted on 08/23/2017 9:27:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: upchuck

We need national preemption as this is the 2nd Amendment, which like the 1st is or should not be subject to local tinkering. My rights as a US citizen should be the same anywhere I travel in the US. Sure glad for the moment, that I live on the Nevada side of the California-Nevada state line.


4 posted on 08/23/2017 9:27:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: upchuck

The lives of women are important:

any facility having anything to do with abortion should have an Emergency Physician on site and all associated, auditable life-saving equipment.

Including a brain scanner.

“even if it saves just one life..!”


5 posted on 08/23/2017 9:29:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Baynative

Jerry Brown will tax as much as he can. Period!

This last time:
1).10 for every plastic bag at the grocery store.
2) $2.00 on every pack of cigarettes.
3) .12 Gas tax (already have highest gas next to Hawaii)
>>>and thats just what I remember.

Mr. Brown...I can’t tell you sir how happy I am to have moved 2000 miles away.


6 posted on 08/23/2017 9:30:55 PM PDT by know.your.why
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To: upchuck

I have a “featureless” AR with a Thordsen stock and I shoot better with it than with a standard AR Pistol Grip and Collapsable Stock. And the Lantac Dragon muzzle brake has almost completely damped out muzzle rise so followup shots are better.
The other noteworthy thing here in CA is a Federal Judge ( in Fresno) has put at least a temporary kibosh on the State law regarding the possession of magazines with capacities greater than ten rounds.


7 posted on 08/23/2017 9:34:59 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: upchuck

Eff the State!


8 posted on 08/23/2017 9:47:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DoughtyOne

In CA?


9 posted on 08/23/2017 9:59:33 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: DoughtyOne

Buying ammo in Kali is cash and carry. That could change if the latest scheme passed by the Rats and also by a ballot proposition isn’t rejected by a judge.


10 posted on 08/23/2017 10:08:44 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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To: upchuck

11 posted on 08/23/2017 10:17:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jonny7797

Once you’ve read this, you’ll know why it’s nearly impossible to keep up with the regulations in California. They’re conflicting and just plain onerous.

I won’t say more. Read this. It sucks!

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article124089319.html


12 posted on 08/23/2017 10:25:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: broken_clock

Well, it’s well on it’s way. They’ve got bills now that demand background checks for ammo purchasers, and are thinking of a permitting process. Brown had signed some legislation that I believe goes into effect on January 1st, 2018, and gets even worse by January 1st, 2019.

After reading this, I think I should get to a dealing soon and make some of my last ammo purchases in the state.

Once you’ve read this, you’ll know why it’s nearly impossible to keep up with the regulations in California. They’re conflicting and just plain onerous.

I won’t say more. Read this. It sucks!

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article124089319.html


13 posted on 08/23/2017 10:28:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: upchuck

The Mexican Mafia Legislature in Sacramento busies themselves turning Law Abiding Citizens into overnight Felons, all the while sanctifying Voter Fraud, especially by the Illegal Invader Population.

This is Third World Banana Republic stuff.

More damage is done at the Ballot Box than by anyone using the Ammo Box in this State.

Own a CA Legal AR-15? Well, it isn’t anymore.

Every Firearm you purchase in CA is required to be Registered. This retroactive action to Register CA Legal AR-15’s is outrageous and if the Rats get back in power you can be assured it will become a Nationwide Policy.

The only thing that will secure our Second Rights will be the Trump Administration filling every vacant Federal Judgeship and hopefully (yes, I am wishing what you think I am wishing) filling a few more Vacancies on the SCOTUS. We may have a very short window to save the Republic.

Didn’t Justice Breyer just come out against the Individual Right to own a Firearm? Another Traitorous Liberal POS Overlord.


14 posted on 08/23/2017 10:44:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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Oops...

The only thing that will secure our Second AMENDMENT Rights.


15 posted on 08/23/2017 10:46:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: upchuck

Californians will undoubtably comply with this new blatantly illegal BULLSH*T “law” just about as well as their east coast friends have complied there, at about a 2 or 3 percent level only


16 posted on 08/23/2017 11:01:32 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: upchuck

Stripper clips.
Fixed magazine, no problem.

Pistols will have to look a bit WWI Austrian though.
Check out the Steyr-Hahn.


17 posted on 08/23/2017 11:07:56 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: upchuck
Good Gun

Evil Gun

Same gun

18 posted on 08/23/2017 11:19:09 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Either we have a U. S. Constitution or we don’t.

In Calif the Constitution long since has had any meaning

19 posted on 08/23/2017 11:52:21 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Fiddlstix
THAT, is a silly looking AR.

Hawaii is screwed up, but no restrictions on semi auto rifles, other than a magazine cap of 10 that no one pays any attention to.

Handguns, CCW, and open carry are still a battle being fought.

20 posted on 08/23/2017 11:54:59 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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