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CNN’s Take On Antifa: Peace Through Violence (Update: CNN Scrubs Headline)
Hotair ^ | 08/20/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 08/20/2017 8:41:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

CNN published an article today based on interviews with members of Antifa. The headline notes, “Activists seek peace through violence.” That seems to suggest there’s a real problem with what Antifa is doing but the rest of the article comes across as sympathetic to the group, even to their violence:

Antifa activists often don’t hesitate to destroy property, which many see as the incarnation of unfair wealth distribution.

“Violence against windows — there’s no such thing as violence against windows,” a masked Antifa member in Union Square told CNN. “Windows don’t have — they’re not persons. And even when they are persons, the people we fight back against, they are evil. They are the living embodiment, they are the second coming of Hitler.”

[Scott] Crow explained the ideology this way: “Don’t confuse legality and morality. Laws are made of governments, not of men,” echoing the words of John Adams.

“Each of us breaks the law every day. It’s just that we make the conscious choice to do that,” he said.

CNN notes their Antifa source is “echoing” John Adams. Adams included the phrase “a government of laws and not of men” in the Massachusetts Constitution. His point was that no king or autocrat would determine what was legal or illegal. Instead, the government would operate based on laws which applied to everyone equally.

This is the opposite of what Antifa stands for. Scott Crow is literally saying his group breaks the law (assault, vandalism, etc.) when it determines people are “evil” and delivers extra-legal justice. That’s not at all how a government of laws operates. CNN’s source may be echoing John Adams but he clearly doesn’t understand what Adams was saying.

Antifa members also sometimes launch attacks against people who aren’t physically attacking them. The movement, Crow said, sees alt-right hate speech as violent, and for that, its activists have opted to meet violence with violence.

Right or wrong, “that’s for history to decide,” he said.

Now we’re arguing that violence is a reasonable response to “hate speech.” At least no one is trying to claim James Madison for support. As for the idea that history will decide, that’s another way Antifa is saying they don’t believe the actual law as it exists now applies to them. That’s why they wear masks and dress the same, so they can get away with it.

“People put on the masks so that we can all become anonymous, right? And then, therefore, we are able to move more freely and do what we need to do, whether it is illegal or not,” he said.

And that means avoiding police, whom many Antifa members see as an enemy, as well as skirting the scrutiny Antifa activists often get from alt-right trolls on the Internet. Black bloc, one member told us, also unites the movement.

“Even though it only takes one person to break a window, it doesn’t matter because the bloc moves together,” said a 26-year-old named Maura, who wouldn’t give her last name.

The left’s secret society of masked vandals is growing and they are seeking to normalize political violence. People who feel they can act above the law (so long as it’s for the right reason) are a danger to all of us. Responsible Americans should condemn Antifa rather than tolerate them.

Update: As I noted in my opening paragraph above, CNN’s headline seemed like the only part of the story that was really critical of Antifa. So perhaps you won’t be shocked to learn they’ve scrubbed that one bit of criticism:

CNN literally scrubbed a headline which called Antifa violent because Antifa did not like it.

This is modern journalism. pic.twitter.com/pQ2oHRwkIw

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) August 20, 2017

I’m not 100% sure the headline was scrubbed because Antifa didn’t like it. The update about Antifa denying violence in Charlottesville was there yesterday before they scrubbed the headline. In any case, the group admits to employing violence in the body of the article, so why remove “violence” from the headline? CNN should explain.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; cnn; insurrection; terrorism; terrorists; violence
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1 posted on 08/20/2017 8:41:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NYT hates America.


2 posted on 08/20/2017 8:44:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Antifa is just the latest incarnation of the Revolutionary Communist Party/Workers’ World, etc, etc.

They are gearing up for celebrating the centennial of the ultimately failed Bolshevik revolution.

Nothing new under the sun.


3 posted on 08/20/2017 8:45:26 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Activists seek peace through violence.”

In the long run, “Peace through superior firepower” might be a losing proposition for them.


4 posted on 08/20/2017 8:50:22 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: BenLurkin

Liberals and other leftists, anarchists, and communists are self proclaimed enemies of America and want to bring it to it’s knees. This will not be tolerated.


5 posted on 08/20/2017 8:50:26 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Antifa members also sometimes launch attacks against people who aren’t physically attacking them. The movement, Crow said, sees alt-right hate speech as violent, and for that, its activists have opted to meet violence with violence.

In short, the thugs feel they can beat people up who disagree with them... Effing little brownshirts.

6 posted on 08/20/2017 8:50:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Start by tearing down statues ...burning books, and eventually you go after people - John Davidson)
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To: SeekAndFind
Republicans who agree with Antifa...

Mitt Romney, Sen. John McCain, Sen. Paul Ryan, Sen. Jeff Flake, Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Ben Sasse, Ed Gillespie, Sen. Lindsey Graham, Sen. Cory Gardner, Sen. Jerry Moran, John Kasich, Rep. Ed Royce, Rep. Leonard Lance, Yeb Bush, Rep. Will Hurd, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Sen. Dean Heller, Sen. Orrin Hatch, Senator Todd Young, Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, ...

7 posted on 08/20/2017 8:55:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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"CNN Scrubs Headline"

Too late:


8 posted on 08/20/2017 8:56:45 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SeekAndFind

Antifa on Antifa



9 posted on 08/20/2017 8:58:41 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: SeekAndFind
Right or wrong, “that’s for history to decide,” he said.

Here's to a brief and harsh decision.

10 posted on 08/20/2017 9:13:37 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

CNN Antifa bump for later....


11 posted on 08/20/2017 9:22:58 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like vigilante justice to me, you know, the thing that the Klan used to do.


12 posted on 08/20/2017 9:30:58 PM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who is enriched from a broken window? The local window company, the big corporation glass manufacturer and the big corporation insurance company who raises premiums, the local police department, the local branch of the big corporation race business and, the local city hall, who must now increase its budget supported by property and retail taxes, despite the exodus of people living or shopping there.

What these Dune-meets-Mockingjay cosplay anarchists fail to grasp in their narrowness, is they are supporting the same big corporations, the same police, the same city hall they claim to hate along with supporting the racemonger industry - at the expense of an innocent shopkeeper who’s support they think they’re gaining.


13 posted on 08/20/2017 9:40:38 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: lightman

Antifa is nuts


14 posted on 08/20/2017 10:46:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: blueplum

This aint about reason


15 posted on 08/20/2017 10:47:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: MileHi

Its godless


16 posted on 08/20/2017 10:48:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Antifa is a terrorist group. Assaults police & others with violence and biohazards!


17 posted on 08/20/2017 11:14:56 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: lightman

Yes! I think their last incarnation was the Anarchists who have been rioting at all the all the G-8 Conferences, etc.

They look the same, carry same flags and signage, and of course, act the same :(

They have just changed their name in an attempt to rebrand..


18 posted on 08/20/2017 11:17:35 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: Lopeover

The media is the real terrorist group.


19 posted on 08/21/2017 12:02:25 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: joshua c

Sounds like vigilante justice to me, you know, the thing that the Klan used to do.

Are you actually suggesting what the klan is known for is justice? It's one thing to oppose antifa; but to provide moral sanction for the klan is something else entirely.

20 posted on 08/21/2017 12:48:34 AM PDT by Roland (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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