Posted on 08/20/2017 5:04:57 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
USS John S. McCain has collided with a merchant vessel east of Singapore and the Strait of Malacca. The guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain was involved in a collision with a merchant vessel east of Singapore and the Strait of Malacca, the Navy said in a tweet. Initial reports indicate the warship sustained damage to its port side aft. No immediate word on any casualties. Search and rescue efforts are under way in coordination with local authorities, the Navy said. The warship is named after John S. McCain, Sr., and John S. McCain, Jr., both Admirals in the U.S. Navy, and the grandfather and father, respectively, of the Arizona senator.
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............strange............as far as I can recall I haven’t heard of any other country’s destroyers running into HUGE merchant ships or any ships.................!
is 40 plus years of recruiting, training and promoting based on skin color, gender, gender preference, political connections, lesbian, gay and so on coming home to roost??
The Titanic didn’t have Radar but I guess it wouldn’t have mattered if they did.
McCain commanded the Long March through our Navy as well.
I’m literally sick. Lord, please help us.
Same class of ship. Arleigh Burke DDG’s
Awful unusual that two of the same class would have incidents in the Pacific within a couple of months.
It’s named after his father and grandfather.
Three is friendly fire.
Welcome to the new Navy. Not the same as the old Navy.
Exactly.
If it happens once it’s dereliction.
When it happens twice one has to start asking other questions. Like why is radar not working in the waters. Why and how, do they not “see” other ships.
I am thinking somewhere in a Chinese back channel, someone is saying, “It’s a shame your ships cannot see at night. Perhaps you should only dive them in daylight.”
The captain is ALWAYS responsible. If the EO or OOD screws up, it is the captain’s fault. If he hasn’t trained his underlings properly, it’s on him. If they don’t wake him up, it’s on him. If hi as to duct tape himself to a chair on the bridge, then that’s what he has to do.
And finally, if he is saddled with an incompetent affirmative action hire, it is still on him.
They put these things on ships nowadays called windows. You can see right through them. Even a stealth ship can be spotted using them. /s.
I’m going out on a limb here but I’m betting that both the Fitz and the McCain knew the other ship was there. Nothing gets within 70 miles on these ships that doesn’t show up on sensors. The problem is making a decision to do something when the risk of collision becomes apparent, or forgetting that the other ship - a loss of situational awareness - is there when you begin to maneuver. It is a huge collecrove brain fart, what the maritime safety folks would call a failure of bridge resource management.
It is first and foremost a failure of command to train and lead their crews. In combat these folks would be swimming on day one. If they can’t avoid a 20 knot tanker, how are they going to evade a sea skimming anti ship missile and a couple torpedos?
Many prayers are being said for him, and all aboard.
this is not a joking matter
BREAKING: Five sailors injured and 10 missing after US warship crashes into cargo vessel
Here's a pop-quiz: you see running lights of another vessel, and a green all-around mast light above a white all-around mast light.
What kind of boat is it - what is it doing -- and which is the encumbered vessel, even if the one you are on is under sail?
Every coast-wise vessel pilot should know this (although more than a few seem to not quite get it).
As a helpful, semi-open book type of thing hint, day-light signal (dayshape) for the vessel you're encountering is two inverted cones, the points meeting in the middle creating an hourglass type of shape.
Admittedly, there could be more than one specific kind of ongoing "operation" for vessels showing green over white, and/or hourglass dayshape, so that part of the question could be impossible to specifically differentiate lacking other info, such as further visual clues --- and possibly knowledge of where and when the various kinds of operations that can be grouped under one relatively loose, 'catch-all' term.
YES.............arguably, I guess, McCain is the Poster Boy for NO ACCOUNTABILITY in the Navy!!!!
America is cursed by all these disgusting, low life, low IQ “politicians” and federal appointed office holders showing up in our world at relatively the same time. Just off hand with no Google reference I can think of:
1. McCain
2. Kerry
3. Maxine
4. McCaskill
5. Chuck
6. Reid
7. Biden
8. Feinstein
9. Corker
10. Bush, G.W.
11. Corker
12. Lindsey
13. Collins
14. Murkowski
15. Holder
16. Lynch
17. Brennan
18. Jeb Bush
19. Jeh Johnson
20. Hillary
21. Bill B.J. Clinton
22. Kristen Gillebrand
23. Elizabeth Warren
24. Kamala Harris
25. John Podesta
26. John Kasich
I could go on and on but my point is that ALL of these people have damaged this country. How many hits can we take. And there are hundreds more that can be added to the list.
It’s a serious infection to the body politic that arguably we are not going to survive.
Any thing even remotely associated with McShame is stupid and screwed up....
Good question. Every boater should carry a copy of the Rules. In addition to the annotated paper copy I got mine on my smartphone, along with Notices to Mariners and the Light List. To paraphrase Matthew 7:20 - by their lights ye shall know them.
Vessel under 50 meters trawling. Other vessels except: Not Under Command, Restricted in Ability to Maneuver and Constrained by Draft, are burdened and shall keep out of her way.
I like this mnemonic: New Reels Catch Fish So Purchase Some
Not Under Command (Red over Red, the Captain is Dead)
Restricted in Ability to Maneuver (Red, White, Red Restricted)
Constrained by Draft (Red, Red, Red, Constrained by Red)
Fishing, Other than Trawling (Red over White, Fishing Tonight)
Sailing (Red over Green, a Sailing Machine)
Power
Seaplane
And: Mine Clearance (Green, Green, Green, Danger Extreme)
Seiners (with nets on surface, but likely not moving all that much) red over white. One red light -- or red over white "captain dead" (vessel not under command). We should have used such lighting when shutting down at night drifting, such as when albacore tuna fishing, but most modern-day fishing boats would skip that, since they'd have bright deck lights burning making the boat highly noticeable.
I confess the folks I worked with trawling never bothered with extra white lights when "shooting nets", or showing red over a pair of white lights when hauling back the net (which would usually have the boat moving backwards at least until again) but we'd have enough boom-mounted "deck lights" shining down on the back deck and aft that when the weather was clear enough to not be pea-soup fog, a person would have to blind (or else on the bridge of a UNS Destroyer?) to not see us for MANY miles distance.
When trawling, would have right-of-way over sailing craft also, perhaps unless in a shallow channel wherein a sailboat would need available draft clearance possibly greater than our own (that would never happen on the West Coast) resulting in fishing trawlers actively trawling need not give way to most any other vessels (technically speaking) other than active dredgers and --- as I noticed when looking it up, and as you made mention of -- minesweepers, which I'd entirely forgotten about, and have never encountered.
Red over white seiner with net deployed on surface -- but vessel also possible to not have anyone "on the bridge" (or more like "in the wheel-house" in American commercial fisherman's nomenclature) since they'd likely be on the back deck assisting the crew whenever pursing up, and then "drying up" the net.
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