Posted on 08/10/2017 11:42:34 AM PDT by Oatka
Id say yes sucks to go to ensenada we dont even get of the ship
If McKeating is for it, it must be anti-American.
I deal with this sort of thing periodically in my line of work. I’ve long advocated a revision of the Jones Act that leaves most of its provisions intact but removes the prohibition against foreign-flagged vessels for domestic shipping routes to Hawaii and Alaska.
Agree.
If McPain is for it, I’m against it.
It’s a shame McKeating will assume room temperature soon.
That’s about it. As far as security and domestic benefit, most of the act is fine.
Then why leave the rest?
You should. They have some good fish tacos.
EVERY industry will claim that if they face free and open competition - national security will be harmed, enemies will be strengthened, the environment will be damaged, jobs will be lost, children will die.
We heard it back in the Carter days about airline deregulation. We were told the same when Obama bailed out General Motors. The Left screamed the same for years about health insurance, and then simply combined the power of government together with bought-and-paid-for cronies in the insurance industry and gave us Obamacare to rape the American middle class.
These numbers might be a few years old, but they tell the story nonetheless ... It costs about $800 to ship a 40-foot container from Los Angeles to Shanghai, and about $8,000 to ship the same container from LA to Honolulu. The ship carrying the container to Shanghai sails past Hawaii. This seems ludicrous on its face.
The primary focus of the Jones Act should be on truly domestic shipping -- and by that I mean shipping between U.S. ports on U.S. waterways (barge shipping up on the Mississsipi River system and within U.S. harbors, for example). This type of shipping would be most applicable in terms of U.S. security interests and the protection of our domestic shipping industry.
You're actually making the case in favor of the Jones Act and the protection of the U.S. shipping industry.
Foreign airlines are permitted to operate international routes to and from the U.S., but they are NOT permitted to operate between domestic U.S. destinations. This is exactly how the shipping industry operates under the Jones Act, and as far as I know it's the same for Federal trucking industry regulations.
Astonishingly one of the relatively few things the federal government does that is lawful ... so of course they want to ditch it.
Correct. Here in Hawaii the Jones Act functions as an outdated engine of our high cost of living, needlessly so.
Been there done that the fish tacos aint that good
I used to deal with that sort of thing everyday in my line of work because that was my line of work.
One of the down falls of Great Britain was started by them giving up most of their merchant marine to foreigners.
This is analogous of sending all our manufacturing to China.
How did that turn out.
Getting rid of the Jones Act or even part of it is a globalist view.
Getting rid of the Jones Act or even part of it is a globalist view.
No, it's not. In fact, as far as Hawaii and Alaska are concerned the Jones Act probably makes them more reliant on foreign-sourced materials and products -- simply because the cost of domestic shipping is prohibitively high. See the example I gave earlier in this thread.
What domestic shipping industry? Allow foreign lines to move cargo between the continental U.S. and Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and you remove the need for a domestic shipping industry. And since foreign lines can move between U.S. ports on the coast then why not up and down rivers and lakes? If cost is your only consideration?
And why we're at it, why not allow foreign airlines to fly passengers between U.S. cities? Let Air France do the New York to Dulles run, Japan Air fly LA to Honolulu, Aer Lingus fly Boston to Chicago, Aeromexico fly Dallas to Miami, and so forth. Imagine the savings that could result from that kind of competition?
Of course the outcome of all that is you would lose just about your entire U.S. merchant marine, your domestic ship building industry, and probably a couple of airlines but hey, you're saving money.
The purpose is to give the US maritime labor unions, (and the Mafia, and the Democrat Party,) a stranglehold over trade and shipping.
Oh, I don't know ... maybe the one that operates on some of the busiest shipping lanes on the planet?
In a typical year, the volume of freight traffic on the U.S. domestic waterway system is something like two and a half times the volume of cargo that moves through the Panama Canal.
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