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Vietnam wins U.S. defense pledges
Reuters ^ | AUGUST 8, 2017 | Eric Beech and My Pham

Posted on 08/09/2017 6:46:10 PM PDT by gandalftb

Vietnam has won the promise of a visit from a U.S. aircraft carrier and deeper defense cooperation from the United States..

U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told Vietnamese counterpart Ngo Xuan Lich in Washington on Tuesday that a strong defense relationship was based on common interests that included freedom of navigation in the South China Sea.

A Vietnam flag flies as U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (L) hosts an honor cordon for Vietnamese Defense Minister Gen. Ngo Xuan Lich (R) at the Pentagon...

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: navy; secdefmattis; southchinasea; third100days; trumpasia; usnavy; vietnam
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To: ThanhPhero

56,000 dead Americans for NOTHING. I think loving the country is out of the question.


41 posted on 08/09/2017 10:10:55 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: gandalftb

Free South Vietnam and we can be great allies.


42 posted on 08/09/2017 10:11:31 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Cen-Tejas

Speaking as someone who was born after the war:

1. Thanks for your service.
2. I find it completely understandable that they hold such an opinion. It’s not like they don’t have reason for their opinion, and it’s certainly not like they didn’t pay cash for the right to have it in the first place.


43 posted on 08/09/2017 10:13:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: xkaydet65

IIRC, China and Vietnam were at war at one time and Vietnam beat them.


44 posted on 08/09/2017 10:19:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C6%B0ng_Sisters


45 posted on 08/09/2017 10:21:09 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Spktyr
Ho Chi Minh didn't go to the Communists first - he had fought on the Allied side in WW2.

Wrong.

Ho had been a member of the Comintern since the 1920s, and was a member of the French Communist Party since 1917. He was always a Communist and always loyal to the Soviet Union.

46 posted on 08/09/2017 10:21:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: gaijin

Hey no problem.


47 posted on 08/09/2017 10:25:45 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: gaijin

Hey no problem.


48 posted on 08/09/2017 10:25:52 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: dfwgator

Let me clarify - I didn’t say he wasn’t a Communist himself (because clearly he was), I meant that he didn’t approach the Communist *Bloc* for support first; he didn’t go to the Soviet Union to get aid until after the US had turned him down by supporting the French. If the US had actually told the French to bugger off, he might have accepted a more democratic government as a requirement of that aid; he was a nationalist more than a Communist, from what I’ve read.


49 posted on 08/09/2017 10:30:57 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pelham

That’s new to me. I believe I was thinking about this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War


50 posted on 08/09/2017 10:40:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Spktyr

very interesting, thanks Spktyr!


51 posted on 08/10/2017 12:37:54 AM PDT by Coffee_drinker (Drain The Swamp.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

My first flight instructor flew Me-110s for the Reich during the war.


52 posted on 08/10/2017 6:14:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ThanhPhero

Thank you from a Nam Gold Star sister. My youngest bro was there for a bit and he loved it, but I can’t get the image of the woman he was staying with eating rats. Wonder if they have a middle class yet?


53 posted on 08/10/2017 7:37:24 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Spktyr

I heard once that when the Americans gave independence to the Philippines in 1946, Ho Chi Minh said he wished Vietnam had been an American colony instead of a French one, because the Americans would probably let go of Vietnam at the same time.


54 posted on 08/10/2017 10:24:21 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

He was probably right - the idea of “empire” never did sit well with the American public. The ‘empire’ we took off Spain in the 1898 Spanish American War didn’t do us any favors and we pretty much let everyone who didn’t want to be in it go after less than 50 years; pretty much we discovered we had no taste for it and it wasn’t that great an idea in the first place.


55 posted on 08/10/2017 11:44:11 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

my dad was U.S. Army and training medics in Salt Lake City Utah, one of his brothers was a medic on Saipan (never said one word about it in 30 years while I was around), his other brother was a loader on an anti aircraft gun on a destroyer in the Solomon’s.

All of my mothers 4 brothers were Navy and overseas. I’m real proud of my families WWII record which was one reason there was never any question I was going in.

Interestingly, some of my GI buddies would try and kid Yugi and Minesaki about their role in the War (on Okinawa). On anything else they would laugh and joke and carry on and very friendly. All us kids just loved them. But, bring up their war experiences and they would just shake their heads and say “dami!, dami!” (means no good) and walk off.


56 posted on 08/10/2017 3:17:25 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: DuncanWaring

...............so, in your piece of the world on this subject you obviously moved on and tens of millions on both sides did too following all our wars through Vietnam.

You know, as CRAZY as it is in a literal sense, what sane alternative is there?

That said, I agree with the freeper who said it look creepy (or whatever adjective he used) to see Mattis and this Vietnam General standing together on the Pentagon steps with the Vietnam General saluting the US Flag during the National Anthem. Amazing.


57 posted on 08/10/2017 3:26:05 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Cen-Tejas

Actually, if I recall the story correctly, after the war he actually enlisted in our air force for a while...


58 posted on 08/10/2017 3:48:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: huldah1776
Every time I go there the country is richer. The fellow in whose house I stay while there was a sharecropper 14 years ago with a 200 sq ft+- house. Now his (same) house is about 1800 sq ft and the family is no longer spending every minute hustling pennies. His two older daughters have college degrees with my sponsorship and he is assisting his two young sons who are also working, to go to college. In 2003 in that town there were mostly very poor people and severe malnutrition on the periphery and there was a small number of relatively prosperous families, mostly shrimp farmers. Now there is a solid middle class in the town. In the same time period the young adults were very short and thin back then and now I, at 5"10' and not so slim don't stand out much. In 2003 I towered over everyone.

When I first went back I determined that I would eat anything given me to eat at least once. Some of it is pretty exotic. The rats are very large, bigger than some of the rabbits southern boys here take and cook up all the time and they are the same on the plate.

The country went thorough the 'starving years" after the 75 taking of Sai Gon but the Communists finally realized that if they persisted with classic communism- collectivization and dismantling of religion and all that- the communists were going to starve, too. China was not going to help and , in fact, invaded in a border war. The Viet Communists being Vietnamese were/are practical people and they saw that the country was sliding down the tube and they knew that if the country did not grow rich and strong it would become a province of China. They backed off and allowed first the Buddhists to have their pagodas back then finally gave the Catholics back their rights and promoted market capitalism and the country has been prospering since.

59 posted on 08/13/2017 6:13:38 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: huldah1776
Back to Viet Nam
60 posted on 08/13/2017 6:17:16 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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