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To: EveningStar

leftist give us fake nutrition (meat and fat cause diabetes, grain diets are healthy), fake news (”trump conspired with the russians to win the election”), and fake science (”humans are causing the polar ice caps to melt and we’ll all be drowned when the oceans soon rise by 100 feet worldwide”, and “life on Earth occurred by accident due to a temporary pocket of negative entropy”).

I’d like to hear their most powerful arguments for the first living cell arising randomly with the 6 feet of DNA structures necessary to codify not only the organization of the cell, but its replication system, the repair system, the communication system, the fabrication system and its integration system with soon to be surrounding cells.

While I’m waiting, I think I’ll preform a experiment. Actually, my experiment would take longer than that, so instead, let’s perform a thought experiment, but instead of shooting for the first fully functioning, self-replicting cell, let’s go for something MUCH simpler than a single cell organism, say a nano-sized CF-53 Panasonic i7 laptop with Windows 7 Professional x64 with integrated nano-solar cells for power.

First, we fill a billion (or so) beakers full of the necessary elemental powders, say a bunch of ground up laptops and bootable OS CDs (to make things go quicker), put some sea water in, and then bombard the laptop soup in the beakers with lightening for a few hundred million years (or so).

What are the chance of getting our nano-laptop and OS. Pretty good, right? After all, that’s a WAY simpler setup than a self-replicating cell.

Do you think that we would eventually obtain a few simple diodes, later followed by an integrated circuit chip forming in the beaker? And then the chip would eventually RANDOMLY evolve all by itself into the laptop (with operating system) after being bombarded by cosmic rays for an even longer time after that, even though bombarding an integrated circuit with cosmic rays would be like bombarding an Intel i7 fabrication plant with 20mm depleted uranimum shells from an A-10 Warthog, and expecting to get an i9 processor coming out afterwards? You know, pretty much like bombarding our single cell animal itself with cosmic rays and expecting that eventually a homo sapiens would arise.

If organic life formed by accident in a similar scenario, then certainly there should be no problem with obtaining the laptop and operating system in a like fashion, because after all, the laptop and OS are a few thousand trillion times simpler than, say, the Homo Sapiens species. In fact, we should obtain the laptop and OS much faster because they are so much simpler.

I wonder how long we’ll have to shake our beakers?


13 posted on 08/06/2017 10:21:19 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

In a class of twenty students present a large bucket of random separated legos. Pass the bucket among the students for 10 minutes with each student shaking the bucket using all their might. Crack the bucket open and spread the contents on a table. Show that none of the pieces have joined. Instruct the students to build an animal: a cat, dog, snake, horse, fly, beetle, whatever suits them. In twenty minutes show that all the animals were intelligently designed using a common set of building blocks. It's one class period of valuable education. Children can absolutely learn the difference between the theories of evolution and intelligent design. It's only adults indoctrinated in the religion of evolution who cannot.


17 posted on 08/06/2017 10:44:35 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: catnipman

The fool has said in his heart, “there is no God”. Evolution says the same thing. It should be noted that the sacred scriptures do not say, the fool has said in his ‘mind’ there is no God. Those who hold fast to the foolishness known as the “theory of evolution” do so from the heart, out of choice, from ill will and malice toward both both God and man.

Academics seem to have a corner on foolishness. Yet they beat us over the head with supposed facts that prove they are right and threats that if you disagree or poke fun at them that you are against science and hopelessly ignorant.

But evolution does indeed substitute an agent, his name is Chaos. Out of chaos everything we see has miraculously arisen. It just takes time, lots and lots of time for ridiculous results to happen.

Saying that man descended from cousin primates is an insult to our humanity. Concocted by the father of lies, who hates us for our relation to Jesus Christ, true God and true man, at whose name “every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth” Phil 2:10

Adam and Eve will be at our general judgement. I don’t think they will need to say anything.


22 posted on 08/06/2017 11:29:08 AM PDT by blackpacific
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To: catnipman

Brilliant depiction of tbe Achilles heel of evolution: the assumption that unimaginable complexity arose spontaneously.


23 posted on 08/06/2017 11:33:52 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: catnipman

Definitely fake - “and fake science (”humans are causing the polar ice caps to melt and we’ll all be drowned when the oceans soon rise by 100 feet worldwide”) - it’s only 40 feet or so if ALL ice and snow were melted, including the ice cubes in your fridge.


30 posted on 08/06/2017 11:58:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: catnipman

leftist give us fake nutrition (meat and fat cause diabetes, grain diets are healthy)

how do you get the bread that Jesus and people of the time ate often without grain? Genesis in bible says God gave us every seed bearing plant as food. That includes grains.

How do we make bread to have Communion as He told us to do in memory of Him without grain?


53 posted on 08/07/2017 4:51:06 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: catnipman

Shake our beakers?

I’d rather pluck my magic twanger froggy


55 posted on 08/07/2017 6:34:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: catnipman; so_real; blackpacific; tjd1454; PIF
"If organic life formed by accident in a similar scenario, then certainly there should be no problem with obtaining the laptop and operating system in a like fashion,"

A totally ridiculous analogy, and it speaks to Origin of Life ideas, not to basic evolution theory.
But natural-science speculations on origins of life focus on what must happen under certain chemical conditions, not on whatever random probabilities might produce.

Regardless, for scientists who believe, their work asks if nature can show us something of how God accomplished His miracles.
And, sometimes it does.

68 posted on 08/10/2017 6:20:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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