Posted on 08/06/2017 2:55:04 AM PDT by blueplum
"But it remains to be seen how strongly China, North Korea’s largest trading partner, will implement the new sanctions."
Ah, there's the rub.
I think the goal is to get China to join a two front war with China supplying a massive ground force.
Can someone please explain the seafood aspect. Is it because they do not have enough fishing entities to meet the needs of their population? Even though they starve a good majority of the population in the first place?
Good attempt. ASEAN Is not the worst of organizations but they don’t have any control over the most corrupt of their members. What goes on out of view can be destructive of the objective of putting pressure on NK. Remember the murder of Kim Jong Nam and the friendliness of Malaysia toward NK.
Then there's this...
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“Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the country’s continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.”
http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861
I get the feeling this administration knows how and when to negotiate. MAGA
One can easily see any conflict between the U.S. and the Norks as being a proxy war against the U.S. by China and Russia.
I get the feeling this administration knows how and when to negotiate. MAGA
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If you don’t follow Sundance over at Conservative Treehouse, he does an excellent analytical job on stories of the day. I read the story below before the UN Security Council vote & was interested in the results - both Russia and China withheld their vetos .... per Sundance, it was because of Trump’s negotiating prowess. Of course, the enemedia doesn’t cover this sort of thing, but it makes me very happy and secure in Trump as president when he can get such good results. MAGAnomics!!!
Stunning Leverage Created by President Trump Over Little Dragon – Draft U.N. Security Council Resolution Targets N-Korea Economy…
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A couple of excerpts describing Trump’s efforts:
However, how President Trump has set Nikki Haley up for success on this resolution is something for the history books to write about .......
Combine these two points and you discover the leverage President Trump’s team has created.
Add all this to the personal relationships developed between Trump and the Gulf Cooperation Council; then factor in the larger geo-strategic economic realm; and then overlay the leverage needed over Russia on issues unrelated to the EU,… and damn Trump’s foresight on this is incredible.
When it comes to the use of economic leverage to create U.S. national security outcomes, well, we are learning at the knee of an economic master player.
Ha. Good one.
The old con again.
We never learn.
Total nonsense.
Wishful thinking.
The point of the article was Trump maneuvering to get Russia and China to withhold their veto votes on the Security Council .... and they did. Not wishful thinking - he got the result he wanted on the vote.
Now ... will this UN sanction vote have any affect on the NORKS? That likely is wishful thinking.
Hee.
That always happens.
China and N Korea scam this all the time.
They’ll get rewards, both of them.
I’ve long been of the opinion that NK is a junkyard dog that China uses for leverage. They have no real interest in resolving the conflict. Nothing I’ve seen to date indicates otherwise. Lots of double-talk from China, but watch what they do, not what they say.
I agree. China likes the fact that NK is a thorn in our side. Ideology plays no part in their thinking. By the same token they must know that Kim is one unhinged tub of lard and sooner or later (probably sooner) he’s going to become unmanageable.
So your argument is that Trump got something powerful to happen, but it won’t have any effect on NK?
China’s game is pretty obvious at this point, which is why Trump is giving china an image to live up to by calling them out in public. It is refreshing to see that when compared to previous “leaders” that merely occupied the White House.
So your argument is that Trump got something powerful to happen, but it won’t have any effect on NK?
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It’s not MY ‘argument’ - I recognize what he did, but the naysayers, who could be right or wrong, say UN sanctions, no matter how onerous, won’t work - whether it works or not is an ‘unknown’ right now; however, Hillary was also supposed to be our president and she’s not .... I’m not counting Trump out.
To elaborate, it is unusual to get Russia & China not to veto UN Security resolutions where NK is involved so something unusual and powerful did happen .... contrast to the ‘Obama years’.
Most of what I’ve read about the sanctions is negative along the lines of: NK is ruled by a mad man who doesn’t care what happens to his people, China tends to cheat & probably will on the sanctions, we’re past the point of sanctions with Kim, etc.
I look at it as Trump doing his level best to avoid wiping out thousands of people to protect the US. He’s trying non-violent means first & having Russia/China abstain from a veto is a huge accomplishment in and of itself & a credit to his skills as an economic negotiator. Of course, since he’s “unfit” to be president by the standards of Krauthammer, Dems, enemedia, RINOs, Never-Trumpers, etc., he gets no credit at all for this accomplishment. Many have projected that he’d be “trigger happy” and he’s proving them wrong on that score; however, he’s got the courage to do whatever he needs to do to protect the US & if that involves “taking out” Fat Kim, I believe he’ll do it. Time will tell how it all ends up.
It appears the effect is first on Russia and China, and then NK. As China has symbolically drawn back from NK, Russia moved in. Not unnoticed by China, which will seek to regain influence in a much stronger way, plans which will not include lil Kim - who, by turning to reliance on Russia has proved himself a traitor to China and therefore, useless. Russia could object and take on China in support of NK, but trade between Russia and China dwarfs any trade benefit between Russia and NK, so the mutual reservation of vote seems to be a clear sign Russia will return to the back seat rather than risk a hot conflict with China.
Yep, and it always will be.
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