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Kobach: 'We may never know' if Clinton won popular vote
The Hill ^ | July 19, 2017 | Max Greenwood and Ben Kamisar

Posted on 07/19/2017 1:09:11 PM PDT by Zakeet

Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and vice chairman of President Trump's voter fraud panel, said the country "may never know" if Hillary Clinton actually won the popular vote.

Pressed by NBC News's Katy Tur in a Wednesday interview about whether Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 election, Kobach quickly cast doubt on the results, saying, "We will probably never know the answer to that question."

But he said the votes that led to President Trump's electoral victory in November were "absolutely" in doubt, as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016issues; corruption; electioneering; hillary2016; kobach; votefraud; voterfraud
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Is it still fraud if they make bribery, multiple registrations, ballot stuffing, and miscounting legal?

1 posted on 07/19/2017 1:09:11 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

WTF is this, they don’t know?


2 posted on 07/19/2017 1:11:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: Zakeet

She lost. That is ALL I care about. MAGA!


3 posted on 07/19/2017 1:11:52 PM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Zakeet

Oh, goody.

RussiaRussiaRussia isn’t working, so I guess it’s back to election fraud as an excuse to make the butt-hurt liberals feel better about their pet witch being put out to pasture.


4 posted on 07/19/2017 1:12:34 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Zakeet

I know already she did not win the popular vote. She got 48.02%. 51.98% voted against her

The only popular vote winners in the last 20 years were Bush (2004) and Obama (2008 & 2012)


5 posted on 07/19/2017 1:14:47 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: IC Ken

With the two million dead who we know are on the voter rolls, it’s not much of a stretch to think that there are at least one million illegals/felons who also voted, and Clinton supposedly had three million more votes than the President. That’s what Kobach should have said, but he chickened out.


6 posted on 07/19/2017 1:15:14 PM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: Zakeet

7 posted on 07/19/2017 1:15:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Zakeet
LOL! Kris Kobach is trolling the Libs!

He's right. The Libs need to prove that all of Hillary's votes were legitimate. Let's start in Michigan...where they called off the recount (because of more votes than voters)

8 posted on 07/19/2017 1:16:36 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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But he said the votes that led to President Trump's electoral victory in November were "absolutely" in doubt, as well.

I don't think that's what Trump brought him to town to say.

9 posted on 07/19/2017 1:17:26 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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But he said the votes that led to President Trump's electoral victory in November were "absolutely" in doubt, as well.

HUH????

10 posted on 07/19/2017 1:18:55 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Pravious

"...Russia Russia Russia..."


Leftwingers are not getting sufficient traction on the Russians impacting all voting machines in a 4,000,000 square miles nation all coordinated in favor of President Trump. They do make me laugh, though.

11 posted on 07/19/2017 1:19:58 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Zakeet
From the article:

Kobach, one of the nation's most ardent supporters of voter identification laws, attended the first meeting of Trump's voter fraud commission earlier Wednesday. The panel is charged with investigating the president's widely debunked claim that millions of illegal voters cost him the popular vote in November.

Somehow I missed that debunked part. Who did that for us? And how "widely" was it debunked. MSNBC and CNN opinions don't count for legitimate debunking.

12 posted on 07/19/2017 1:20:35 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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I think he’s auditioning for Pence’s job.


13 posted on 07/19/2017 1:24:53 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: txrefugee

Illegals get their fake IDs via flea market/black market sales of SSN’s from dead people. They are also able to make big ticket purchases (cars & homes) in other people’s names. My understanding is that they think our southern border is a joke, and that a wall won’t change that (I don’t agree). There needs to be the political will to stop illegals from coming in and return them immediately when they are caught. I still think we need a strong military presence on the Mexico border, irrespective of the wall. Also, we need to get rid of the magnet, that being social welfare transfers to illegals. We need to strengthen the tools used to prove that someone has legal permission to work here. We need to prosecute employers who hire illegals. We need to crack down on fake documents. And we need voter ID.


14 posted on 07/19/2017 1:25:41 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: txrefugee

Nobody ever talks about this, but California was counting votes for weeks after the election. There was no doubt on election night that Hillary carried California. But the margin of victory continued to grow and grow. The margin was a bit over 1.5 million votes on election night. As the weeks went by, the vote count continued and reached over 4 million by the time the vote count was certified.

I have wondered how Hillary’s vote margin in California grew from about 1.5 million to over 4 million in the weeks after the election. Were there activists padding her vote totals, to tie in the the liberal meme that “she won the popular vote”??? This huge margin in California alone enabled the liberals to claim she won the nationwide popular vote.

And since the national election was decided, the activists could have padded the vote totals since nobody was watching what they were doing. There was no dispute that Hillary carried California easily, the only issue would be the size of the margin.

If you back out California from the rest of the country, then Trump would have won both popular and electoral votes comfortably.


15 posted on 07/19/2017 1:28:21 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Zakeet

Dems fear Kobach - he’s gonna be a future star.


16 posted on 07/19/2017 1:28:37 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: Zakeet

This is one of the big reasons the “resistance” is fighting Trump.


17 posted on 07/19/2017 1:37:51 PM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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To: txrefugee
He is trying to give them a reason not to fight what his committee is doing. They are so crazy,and hateful,snowflakey,they might go for it.
18 posted on 07/19/2017 1:42:04 PM PDT by samantha (keep up the fight..)
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“But he said the votes that led to President Trump’s electoral victory in November were “absolutely” in doubt, as well.”

Brilliant. I have no doubt Trump’s voters are more accurate than Clinton’s.


19 posted on 07/19/2017 1:42:37 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.”)
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To: SecAmndmt

They don’t need to get fake IDs at flea markets anymore. They get to go to the DMV in places like Cali and NY and get legitimate ones. Hell, even Georgia gives illegals, drivers licenses.

NY did something where they gave ID to thousands of illegals and there was a stipulation in the law that their histories would be wiped from the database. So, there would be no way of knowing where they came from or something like that.


20 posted on 07/19/2017 1:43:02 PM PDT by qaz123
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