Posted on 07/18/2017 11:50:30 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
Anyway, podhoretz jr may have forgotten how the House bill came about, he is just a policy wonk, but I am sure most FReepers remember. PDJT was heavily involved and pushed all the way to get a majority.
It is not President Trump who is responsible for this defeat but the GOP. Seven years without a proper plan to reform the healthcare despite the fact that it has been part of the main platform for every republican running in federal elections. Yikes !
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...”I might point out that for eight years, the GOP talked about this great solution or replacement idea for health-care. Well...where is it? It’s not Trump’s fault, but the bulk of the GOP Senators are hopelessly lost and unable to resolve the problem. I think the epic failure here....if there is one...is that some Senators need to be sent back home and replaced.”...
On election night, when it was evident that the Republicans had pulled off a big win, my husband said, “You watch. The Republicans will find a way to ruin this extraordinary opportunity to roll back the decline of America. They do it every time they have the upper hand. They end up worse than the Democrats who always stand together.” And, so, those were prophetic words. Sad. Having said that, I understand why this bill did not pass. I do not understand why they could not have put together a bill which would have passed. THIS IS NOT TRUMP’S FAULT. He cannot control the glad handing Congress who want to put everything but the kitchen sink in every bill. Maybe the system needs to be fixed before any more bills are passed. Maybe the America people will win if nothing requiring a congressional vote is done for years to come. As far as the medical world is concerned, the money grubbing insurance companies and big pharma have ruined it through taking the power away from the front line folks who are the doctors and nurses. Doctors were envied for so many years because people idolized those who could heal them, relieve their pain and give them hope. Many felt like members of the families they treated. In addition, they were well paid for the 12+ years after college they spent training for their work if it was highly specialized, not to mention the huge debts they needed to pay for not being able to start their careers until their 30s. Lawyers were the prime culprits in the envy mode. Many of them really wanted to be doctors but could not pass the Medcat. So, they finally found ways to marginalize physicians through a business takeover of medicine which opened the door to government control of all our lives through the politicians (most of the lawyers) culminating in “Obamacare.” This one bill and its consequences signed the death warrant for America. It paves the way for leftist ideology to take over the country without having to pass any more bills for it has the power to control every life through government power. It impoverishes the middle class while giving free care to all illegals who manage to get across that border to vote Democrat. And, have you heard? Trump will not be able to look at those voter registrations to see how many voted illegally. The web is so interconnected after so many years of Democratic rule in America that, I believe, an unbelievable crisis is coming which is the only thing which can stop this particular madness, for men and women have switched places. Men now run on estrogen and women have all the testosterone, a recipe for the demise of everything!
Excuse me, my insurance from employer BEFORE obamacare ALREADY had coverage for under 26 age kids. And I paid for it via premiums, and needed it. One of my kids just finished 7 years of college years at age 26, and thus was a full time student and could not afford to buy insurance for herself. Now she is a full fledged lawyer and can afford insurance on her own.
This neocon loser again.
Trump is playing softball. The first thing he should have done is remove all the exemptions, including Cingress and their staff.
The solution to the problem is term limits ,..
This was NOT Trump’s failure, but rather the failure of the Congressional Pubbies to make good on the promise that led to their majorities in the Nov elections.
Those majorities are in serious jeopardy for the upcoming mid terms...from both dhimmicraps and conservative fed up with being lied to by self-serving a$$clowns in DC.
I don’t see how you can blame Trump for not uniting a group who wouldn’t unite, even had he pressured them.
What a glaring delusion -the RINOs are more worried about their own duplicitous power than what their constituents want - President Trump's victory proves that..
Well your employer is very generous.
I work for a Fortune 500 company and before ObamaCare dependent coverage stopped at 18.
Like I said before I really don’t support the 26 mandate. I don’t think government should be mandating any healthcare coverage.
The Democrats were barely able to pass Obamacare with 60 votes in the Senate. And they passed it in the House with only a few votes to spare despite having a huge majority there as well. Right now we have 48 or 49 Republican Senators ready to support the current repeal bill. They are being stymied by a couple of ritual purity extremists on the libertarian fringe, and a couple of liberal members from blue states. There is no point in hyperventilating about the epic failure of the GOP. The problem is numbers. You figure out how to get Rand Paul and Susan Collins in support of the same bill, and you’ll have solved the problem.
some Senators need to be sent back home and replaced.
That and that jerkoff Charles Krauthammer as well. The expiration date on his forehead is long past. He blames Trump for this epic fail for lack of leadership. Controlling a body full of hate for their president is like playing with mercury.
Nobody has ever taken the lead on this and sold the American public on the GOP bills at all. Most House and Senate members who opposed these bills did so because their own polls showed that only 15%-20% of their constituents supported them.
Why can’t congress just pass a stand alone bill to allow buying health insurance across state lines? Only one state would have to offer a true catastrophic care plan for low rates that used to be available everywhere.
Two reasons. One, it's a state issue and any federal law would be overturned on 10th Amendment grounds. Two, five states already allow buying insurance across state lines and as of February there isn't a single instance of an insurance company agreeing to sell. There is no way for them to make money.
We have THREE branches of government - each it’s own entity and each responsible for doing their damn jobs. Where the hell are the likes of Newt Gingrich or Tip O’Neill these days. We are stuck with two woosies and Trump gets the blame?
A President can do only so much and I do believe he has in this case. He can’t strong arm a vote outside of his own Administration. To give political favors for favorable votes is what has been wrong with government and is why there is a swamp today.
BUMP!
Yeah, right. And a free pony, too.
(Before anyone starts busting my chops, yes I voted for Trump on election day)
It's obvious that he had nothing of the sort. So yes, he owns part of this problem.
All Trump said was that, unlikely Hillary Rodman Clinton, he would simply SIGN whatever bill the Congress passed. And since Congress had passed ‘repeal’ of Obamacare something like 62 times in the past, sitting back and waiting for the 63 passage seemed perfectly reasonable.
So, for the NeverTrumpers, YOU LOSE! If you want Trump to fail, you need to convince him to actually DO SOMETHING that contradicts what he promised his supporters...proving that Republicans in Congress are a bunch of flat-out liars, if anything, further proves that TRUMP WAS RIGHT regarding politicians in DC.
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