Posted on 07/12/2017 6:14:35 PM PDT by mitchell001
The GOP must repeal and replace Obamacare now. We don't need to collaborate with the Dems. We don't need to Repeal now and Replace later. The Replace part will happen later and will happen desparately. The Senate GOP has to twist arms until they get 50 Senators to vote YES.
Not with this turdburger, they shouldn’t. What ever happened to free markets?
With you 100%, the only way to go.
I like Ann Coulter’s approach of allowing 0bamacare to stay in its current form while passing a law that allows for a true free market option where people can get whatever coverage they want/need while not signing up for coverage they’ll never use. And allow for health coverage policies to be sold across state lines.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-07-12.html#read_more
“The Senate GOP has to twist arms until they get 50 Senators to vote YES.”
Not with this bill. Not unless it incorporates the Cruz amendment.
I’d rather repeal now and replace never. The government has no business in my healthcare.
Leave it to the GOP Congress to achieve the impossible; come up with a replacement to Obamacare that is actually worse than Obamacare.
I think this is "Republican 3-D chess" to somehow Make America Great Again by losing the House and Senate in 2018.
Let’s hope that the bill that McConnell announces tomorrow (Thurs) at 11am will include the Cruz amendment.
Repeal yes, Replace no! The government has no business mandating health care. The problem is the massive amounts of money being paid to the legislative branch to keep Obamacare. The people that we elected to represent us, are stuffing their pockets at our expense and laughing all of the way to the bank. The free market system is the only way to get a responsible health care program in place.
Just “repeal” would be best.
Rather than “replace” why not strip away previous federal Rules and Regulations that contribute to the abuse of insurance?
I forget who said it, perhaps the Gipper...
Once a free government paid freebee is approved, it can’t be taken away.
If it doesn’t, it isn’t worth passing.
I agree.
This sounds like a good compromise.
Dude free markets are dead
They aren’t going to do any of Trump’s agenda. This is all designed to force Trump to say “screw it” and resign. The only problem with this is that most of these idiots in the Republican Party will be replaced by democrats.
Look up the history of the income tax and IRS.
See tagline.
How about this idea?
Make all health care free (health care being carefully defined as essential treatment, optional stuff can be handled by the free market)
Bring down scheduled payments to doctors and providers but make all MDs income tax exempt.
Start a national sports lottery to fund free health care. Right now I believe most Americans have to go to Vegas or a nearby Canadian city to do sports lottery betting (in BC we get massive amounts of betting on NFL games from U.S. visitors or maybe residents using their internet access)
Tax as low as possible to make up the shortfall (this sports lottery if well designed will pay for much of the health care)
Premiums for those who want to participate, not expensive ones
Option to handle one’s own health care using taxed MDs operating their own clinics — provisions for emergency health care for those folks when they need it urgently and unexpectedly
I think something like this would work and would meet everyone’s requirements — those who want universal access, those who want affordable health care, those who want to plan their own medical treatment, and the state’s need for predictability (knowing where to put health care facilities in the future, which would partially depend on how many people went with the state system and how many with the private option).
This is not dissimilar to the situation in some advanced countries (not nightmare socialist systems). It is not a duplicate of the Canadian system, by the way, we have much of the above but not enough private options — however, reports of how bad our system is appear overblown to many Canadians, our system is neither as bad as some say nor as good as it could be.
How much money could a national sports lottery raise?
Probably at least 10 billion dollars a year, maybe more like 100 billion. Why should Vegas get all that money? (or worse, Canada or European websites).
Is there risk in using a lottery option? Not if it’s properly managed. But to reduce the risk to zero, make all betting pool or “toto” style, where winners get a percentage of the house take. That way, you are guaranteed never to fail to raise money through the lottery. The Canadian model for that is 60% back to the bettors and 40% retained by the province (in Canada all lotteries are under provincial control).
As soon as you add “Replace” you lose the argument. Repeal then repeal some more, as in all other government intervention in the medical and insurance markets. The only justifiable regulation is contra fraud and Constitutionally mandated guarantee of weights and measures which can mean truth in labeling. Cut out all the government else and watch Affordability become real. Cut out all the government intervention and watch quality and availability reach levels higher than ever before. Add real tort reform and double all that.
One concept may not be clear, what I meant was, you choose between participation after paying reasonable premiums, or handling your own health care using a combination of pay when necessary and optional coverage by insurance companies. But you could only go to the “for paying customer” clinics and the free health care folks could only go to public facilities. Exceptions when emergency care required (the systems would be funded on an actuarial basis with regard to trauma and sudden illness situations).
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