New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked

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[nicollo]

cool, tks for the clarification.

[Deaf Smith]

Just as they screwed up translating “Reset Button” to Russian.

[Fester Chugabrew]

I gather from this that the files were not obtained via Russian hacker. Moreover, based on this analysis the likelihood of a Russian hackers is remote. Furthermore, it could not possibly be a Russian hack if this information is true.

[nicollo]

Seth Rich may have supplied info that ended up at Wikileaks. Guccifer 2.0 was the DNC attempting to obfuscate.

okay... so Guccifer followed WikiLeaks, got it. A timeline here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/5zoch9/theory_on_seth_rich_dnc_dncleaks_guccifer_20_cia/

[SaveFerris]

[SaveFerris]

[ Seems anymore you can’t trust gummint, the media, the church, what’s left? ]

[rodguy911]

Exactly,the greatest thing about the dirty dems is that sooner or later they wind up self-destructing.

[Garth Tater]

I gather from this that the files were not obtained via Russian hacker. Moreover, based on this analysis the likelihood of a Russian hackers is remote. Furthermore, it could not possibly be a Russian hack if this information is true.

No, the time/date stamps of the copied files are so close together that the files appear to have been copied locally at a speed that a remote internet connection could not achieve. But the time/date stamps of those files could have been modified to achieve precisely that effect. A good hacker may very well have done exactly that to obfuscate his fingerprints. This analysis proves nothing - just points out that the most obvious view of the data is that it was copied locally. Without a thorough analysis of the data and the server nothing can be proved. And after this length of time and with the data server being kept out of the hands of the relevant authorities nothing can or ever will be proved. It's good to be a Democrat.

[jacquej]

I am wondering about the Awan family as well. Main reason is why the “msm” has studiously been ignoring the story and refusing to dig into their antics, businesses, real estate schemes, and contact with all the democrat legislators, including the intelligence committee.

Wonder if we will ever know, or if all this will be like the assassination of JFK - speculated on for years without any resolution.

[OKSooner]

One would think so.

[Chode]

i agree with and understand all of it except for one thing,

how did they determine the transfer speed of the files, from the timestamps on the files from the UNIX os?

[chris37]

Excellent choice!

[MileHi]

rom what I’ve read (here) that was it, Guccifer 2.0 was born of the DNC to try and tamp down the Rich leaks.

[Hostage]

Guccifer 2.0 is a concoction, a diversion, a pinup of a Russian hacker. Guccifer 2.0 is a fiction written to make it seem like a Russian hack. Guccifer 2.0 is not a real person except for the person behind the scenes that invented it. The Word file metadata showed a ‘Warren Flood’ as the originator of the Guccifer 2.0 document and it was uploaded to a wordpress website before the mistake was discovered, then the metadata was quickly changed to a Russian name in Cyrillic characters.

Word metadata is not visible on its face. To see it requires one to know where to look. A person using the name ‘Warren Flood’ churned out the first Guccifer 2.0 document and uploaded it before catching the mistake, then deleted it, changed the metadata and uploaded again but not before others had downloaded the original.

Guccifer is a real Romanian that was extradited to the US by Hillary in her last months as US Secretary of State. He now sits in a county jail in Fairfax County, Virginia and the report is he has been ‘leaned on’ heavily to confess that Trump paid him to hack everything which is of course untrue and absurd as the timelines do not support it. On the other hand, truth does not matter to the Hillary/Podesta/Comey/Mueller camps.

[Texas Fossil]

Thanks for the explanation.

I knew a little about the original Guccifer. Friend of mine on twitter knew him. My friend was Romanian. He is not on Twitter any more, but we did discuss the original. Several years ago, before he was actually arrested.

I had read he was being pressured. There were rumors he was dead, and then they were denied.

My friend on Twitter told me that Guccifer2 was not same and phoney. But I had not read anything about the Word meta data. I am familiar with that function. It can be turned off too.

I quit windows long ago. Have been using some form of Linux since 1994. Last 10 years, seldom used Windows machines. Still have some.

There have been several controversies that were exposed by Word or Web meta data. XHTML and XML make it difficult to edit manually.

I once did scripted publishing from a database. For 5-1/2 years I ran a catalog/advertising department for a wholesale distributor. We did the print and web content. Used Xdata and Xtags with a script to bring the data into Quark. Was magic if you did everything right. Finally got to the point I could edit it downstream. Original process prevented that.

The catalog was 47,000 items and 3,000 pages plus indexes and insert pages. A beast.

Promotions were huge projects too.

[Nifster]

Indeed

[GOPJ]

The use of a USB drive would also strongly suggest that the person copying the files had physical access to a computer most likely connected to the local DNC network. Indications that the individual used a USB drive to access the information over an internal connection, with time stamps placing the creation of the copies in the East Coast Time Zone, suggest that the individual responsible for initially copying what was eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona under the title “NGP-VAN” was located in the Eastern United States, not Russia.

CNN will NOT want to cover this story...

[Fedora]

From your link in #49: "In the Guccifer documents in question, Warren Flood appears to be the original author, while it was last modified by “Феликс Эдмундович,” which translates to Felix Dzerzhinsky, the name of the founder of the Soviet secret police."

("A 200-plus page document titled “Donald Trump Report” was posted online by The Smoking Gun website on Wednesday. The document’s metadata suggests it was written by Warren Flood, president of Bright Blue Data LLC, a Democratic data analytics and strategy firm. Flood was also a staffer at the DNC in 2010 and worked for Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns in 2008 and 2012, according to his LinkedIn page. Flood did not immediately respond to Newsweek’s request for comment.": Hacker Claims to Leak Stolen DNC Trump Files)

[Fedora]

"I’m Warren. I’m a lucky guy. I’ve had a series of dream jobs I never knew I wanted or could ever attain. What started as a single hour of volunteer work in 2007, turned into data analytics jobs in President Obama’s 2008 and 2012 campaign headquarters. Oh, and in between I worked in the White House as Vice President Biden’s Technology Director. Not bad for a half Canadian—half American, half black—half white, half nerdy—half geeky kid from Toronto, Canada.": Warren Flood: About

[spokeshave]

The way this reads, we are to believe that every time you touch a file, mysterious meta data is stored. Every time we copy a file mysterious meta data is stored.

Exactly

What is metadata? - Definition from WhatIs.com whatis.techtarget.com › Topics › Storage and Data Mgmt › Data and data management Metadata is data that describes other data. Meta is a prefix that in most information technology usages means "an underlying definition or description." Metadata summarizes basic information about data, which can make finding and working with particular instances of data easier.

Could also be GPS locations of cell phones used to send e-mails.....routine back up systems.....program up-dates...etc.