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'Stand Your Ground' ruling unconstitutional, judge says (Florida)
BayNews9 ^ | Monday, July 03, 2017, 12:28 PM EDT | Staff

Posted on 07/03/2017 10:44:16 AM PDT by rarestia

MIAMI --

A judge has ruled that Florida's lawmakers overstepped their authority in updating the state's "Stand Your Ground" ruling.

Ruling issued Monday by Miami-Dade circuit judge Was signed into law in June by Gov. Rick Scott

In ruling the law unconstitutional, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Milton Hirsch said Monday that the changes should have been crafted by the Florida Supreme Court instead of by the Legislature.

The Miami Herald reports that the 14-page order is a victory for prosecutors who have firmly opposed the law.

Critics have said the law makes it easier for defendants to get away with murder and other violent crimes.

The Legislature modified the 2005 statute and Gov. Rick Scott signed it into law in June. The bill was backed by the National Rifle Association.

Under the law, prosecutors must prove by "clear and convincing" evidence that someone wasn't acting in self-defense.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; localnews; miltonhirsch; nut; ruling; standyourground
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To: DoughtyOne

“That’s the rule in every gun shooting instance, saving your own life or the life of another.”

In the State of Washington (and I believe Texas as well, and no doubt other states) the term “self defense” includes defending against felony property crimes (theft, arson, etc.) However, there is always the gung-ho prosecutor that goes after the people protecting their property, so that takes it off the table for me - it isn’t worth the hassle to try to defend against a theft.

Sometimes the good guy goes free, sometimes the good guy goes to jail for eight years.


81 posted on 07/03/2017 12:21:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: ripnbang

Who appointed “God above all”? Jeb Bush, or another democrat?


82 posted on 07/03/2017 12:26:50 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SecondAmendment

No, that is not the job of the judiciary. Marbury v. Madison set the precedent for ruling things as void if they violated the constitution, it says nothing about the court being the place legislature is written. People like you are part of the problem.


83 posted on 07/03/2017 12:30:06 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: rarestia

I know. Since when is the judiciary charged with writing legislation


84 posted on 07/03/2017 12:31:25 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the close)
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To: knarf

You are correct. We elect people to make our law[s]. That judge should be ignored. And removed.


85 posted on 07/03/2017 12:35:39 PM PDT by sport
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To: rarestia

“In ruling the law unconstitutional, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Milton Hirsch said Monday that the changes should have been crafted by the Florida Supreme Court instead of by the Legislature.”

Bullschtein!

The legislature has the final say. It’s high time legislatures all up and down the line start flexing their Constitutional muscles.

They can even (GASP!) reverse/nullify a court ruling.


86 posted on 07/03/2017 12:38:15 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Well, the Democrat Party is a Party of murderers. They murder the innocent and protect the guilty.


87 posted on 07/03/2017 12:38:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: rarestia

Legislators craft laws.

Not unaccountable courts.


88 posted on 07/03/2017 12:41:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rarestia

The judiciary is now in the business of making advisory rulings? I’m glad I no longer live in Florida.


89 posted on 07/03/2017 12:43:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Reno89519

That is what I was taught in high school civics. There were three branches of Government: The Leglistative Branch makes the laws. The Executive Branch enforces the laws.And the Judicial Branch interprets the laws.


90 posted on 07/03/2017 12:46:33 PM PDT by sport
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To: rarestia

Moron judge says lawmakers cannot create legislation. Needs to be removed from the bench.


91 posted on 07/03/2017 12:47:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: rarestia

Floriduh


92 posted on 07/03/2017 12:47:52 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Absolutely and the gun control laws were to prevent the Blacks from defending themselves against the Democrat Party night riders.


93 posted on 07/03/2017 12:49:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: Eleutheria5

Far more conservative judges in the Sunshine state than the liberal legislate from the bench bunch. The Northeast and Northwest are infested with the activists......


94 posted on 07/03/2017 12:51:47 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: Eleutheria5

Far more conservative judges in the Sunshine state than the liberal legislate from the bench bunch. The Northeast and Northwest are infested with the activists......


95 posted on 07/03/2017 12:51:53 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: Eleutheria5

Far more conservative judges in the Sunshine state than the liberal legislate from the bench bunch. The Northeast and Northwest are infested with the activists......


96 posted on 07/03/2017 12:51:56 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: rarestia

:: the changes should have been crafted by the Florida Supreme Court ::

A clear violation of the separation of powers guaranteed in the FLA constitution.

Also, if this is the basis of his ruling, he should be removed from the bench for malfeasance.


97 posted on 07/03/2017 12:52:36 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Hyman Roth
This needs to go to the Supremes. Gee Whiz

Cheese and Rice!!

YA THINK??!!??!!

98 posted on 07/03/2017 1:03:56 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: xp38

Turd on wheels. That’s a face only a mother could love.


99 posted on 07/03/2017 1:06:33 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jonno
Hirsch wrote in his ruling. “But America is, and has always been, a sanctuary country.”
Wow.

I note that the jurist neglected to cite what article and subsection of our National Constitution validates that (clearly erroneous) opinion.

100 posted on 07/03/2017 1:11:38 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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