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Lawmakers applaud after panel approves language revoking war authority
The Hill ^ | 06/29/2017 | Ellen Mitchell

Posted on 06/29/2017 9:52:45 AM PDT by GIdget2004

The House Appropriations Committee on Thursday approved an amendment that would revoke a 2001 law giving the president authority to undertake war against Al-Qaeda and its affiliates unless a replacement provision is created.

Lawmakers applauded when the amendment was added by voice vote to the defense spending bill, highlighting the frustration many members of Congress feel about the Authorization of Use of Military Force, which was initially approved to authorize the response to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It has since been used to justify the Iraq War and the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

Despite the applause, it is unclear whether it will make it past the Senate and be included in a final version of a defense spending bill. The amendment would revoke the 2001 AUMF after 240 days following the passing of the act, forcing Congress to vote on a new AUMF in the interim.

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), the only member of Congress to vote against the initial AUMF, introduced the amendment.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aumf; barbaralee
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1 posted on 06/29/2017 9:52:45 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

Should have been done ten years ago.


2 posted on 06/29/2017 9:55:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: GIdget2004

Funny how they didn’t do this under Obama.


3 posted on 06/29/2017 9:57:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

didn’t have to. He was supporting those groups not fighting them


4 posted on 06/29/2017 9:59:23 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Hillary Clinton must be imprisoned.)
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To: Darksheare

They knew that Obama was a Pussy......................cat......


5 posted on 06/29/2017 10:01:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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To: GIdget2004

Congress SHOULD have responsible to declare and engage in war actions.
POTUS CIC is not a king.

The USA has sacrificed too many of our soldiers and foreign civilians, lost so much treasure and precious moral authority, for what?

Avoid foreign entanglements.


6 posted on 06/29/2017 10:02:39 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: GIdget2004

“Used to justify the Iraq War”

No. UN Resolution 678 justified the invasion of Iraq and the Congress cooperated with that UN initiative. Even the Peoples Republic of China and Russia were willing to admit (Russia voted for and the PRC abstained) the invasion of Kuwait was beyond the pale.

The resolution did not order the coalition to simply expel Saddam’s forces from Kuwait, but used a more expansive term. The term ”restore international peace and security in the area” uses language the UN and our Congress already understood from the Korean War as authorizing the invasion of Iraq. After Inchon both our Congress and the UN affirmed military operations above the 38th parallel had been authorized.


7 posted on 06/29/2017 10:04:24 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: GIdget2004

It’s about damn time.


8 posted on 06/29/2017 10:11:05 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GIdget2004

I support this but it is typical cowardice of Congress. Passed on a voice vote so they can’t be held to their vote.


9 posted on 06/29/2017 10:16:51 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

The problem is when the president goes to Congress to get permission to act he has no idea who the enemy is.

Our constitution was all about going to war with other nations. I don’t think the Founding Fathers ever considered we’d ever be attacked by a bunch of Baptists. Or ....

We’re in uncharted territory. But I agree with Congress on this. Bush got too much power off of 911.


10 posted on 06/29/2017 10:48:10 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners., tea)
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To: Retain Mike

Among Americans UN resolutions aren’t considered justification for anything.

Bizarre that you would consider one so. What country are you from?


11 posted on 06/29/2017 10:58:48 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: GIdget2004

Still haven’t killed Ayman al Zawahiri, the brains of al Qaeda on 9/11 and now the boss.

I don’t think they’re even trying.


12 posted on 06/29/2017 11:09:19 AM PDT by piasa
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To: GIdget2004

Dirtbags... all of them. Dutch Ruppersberger, etc.

Anything to protect the perps of 9/11 now that Obama made friends with them.


13 posted on 06/29/2017 11:12:21 AM PDT by piasa
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Problem is, foreigners tangled with us, not the other way around.

And the reason they did was because we let terrorists become established in failed states and they used those safe havens to plan bombing attacks on us while we were “avoiding entanglement.”

Bin Laden said the reason he decided to launch the 9/11 attacks was because we turned tail in Somalia and Beirut.


14 posted on 06/29/2017 11:19:15 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Terry Mross
The problem is when the president goes to Congress to get permission to act he has no idea who the enemy is. Our constitution was all about going to war with other nations. I don’t think the Founding Fathers ever considered we’d ever be attacked by a bunch of Baptists. Or ....

We went to war against the Barbary Pirates, who were not really a nation-state. There's lots of precedents.

15 posted on 06/29/2017 11:20:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: thoughtomator

Well exactly. Real conservatives would be happy to see the UN evicted from American soil, and end funding and involvement. The neocons and globalists love the UN as long as it is rubber-stamping their program.


16 posted on 06/29/2017 11:34:51 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: thoughtomator

Among Americans’ representatives, they have been. Where have you been since the 1950s?


17 posted on 06/29/2017 11:35:12 AM PDT by piasa
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To: thoughtomator

I said the Congress cooperated with the UN resolution once it was passed. The applicable actions were Public Laws 102-1 and 102-25. The President could not rely upon the other authority that related to the 911 attack.


18 posted on 06/29/2017 11:36:19 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: PapaBear3625

You think it is good for the executive branch to have open-ended war making authority without any Congressional war declaration?


19 posted on 06/29/2017 11:37:13 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: piasa

Depends upon your point of view regarding what came first, our projection of power seen as a threat that caused state gov’t theocratic actor animosity & aggression, or our protecting our interests in foreign countries?...
Islamic countries are like angry hornet & scorpion nests.
Foreign entities are not tolerated and aggressively stung to death.

Iraq - in 1991 Bush senior warned repeatedly of not deposing Saddam Hussein for fear of creating a ME “Power Vacuum”.
Although, Iraq was later sanctioned 14 times by the UN for evading weapons inspections, and there was good indications that WMD ordinance was convoyed to Syria in 2002.

Afghanistan - our soldiers guard opium poppy fields in order to stabilize their fragile economy and thwart Taliban influence (at least that’s what I understand things currently).

Syria - we have no legitimate role to be there.
We are killing Syrians via drones and the ISIS terrorists we created and all to help Saudi and Qatar build a petro pipeline to Europe as an alternate to Russia Gasprom EU energy monopoly.

Libya - we had no legitimate role deposing Gadafhi, and arming Al Queda (which we were told was our enemy).

Somalia - not our business.

Egypt - not our business to overthrow their elected gov’t and put in a Muslim Brotherhood regime.

Saudi Arabia - why the hell do we support a execution happy king that sponsors Wahabi that fans worldwide Jihadists?

Our founding fathers knew best - Avoid foreign entanglements.

The parents of THOUSANDS of our KIA and wounded would very likely agree.
Especially since nearly all of our interventions provide no constructive results to justify our son’s and foreign civilian’s deaths and maiming.

Overall impact of our interventions in human toll and losing legacy moral authority, is a Travesty.


20 posted on 06/29/2017 11:47:47 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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