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Something is fishy about USS Fitzgerald story we are getting from the media
americanthinker.com ^ | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 06/18/2017 7:22:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

We received an email from a Navy Mother that raises serious questions. We will redact her name, while the rumors (and that’s how they must be categorized for now) reported by her son aboard the Fitzgerald are checked out. Here is what she wrote to us:

My son is assigned to the USS Fitzgerald. I am unable to share his rate with you.

The information is short and not so sweet. The implications are disturbing.

The ship is registered in the Philippines. We do not know who the owner is. The container ship neither had its running lights or transponder on. That is an action taken willfully. Furthermore, for the container ship to strike with such accuracy is troublesome. Given what some have done with cars in Europe, what a feather in the cap it would be to sink a U.S. Navy warship. Think on that.

My son missed being washed out to sea by the blink of an eye. He was on his way to one of the berthing areas that was rammed.

*snip*

If there is any substance to this – that the ACX Crystal disabled protective systems and rammed the Fitzgerald at high speed aimed at crtical facilities (evident from the damage) –

PHOTOS

…we have to consider the possibility of an asymmetric warfare attack designed to disable missile defense of a carrier strike group, as North Korea demonstrates the ability to make exactly such attacks on a multibillion dollar warship carrying thousands of sailors.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: Vlad The Inhaler
He recommended on taking evasive action immediately upon sighting a large vessel.

Perhaps the Navy needs to make Capt. Trimmer's classic How to Avoid Huge Ships required reading. Check out the reviews on Amazon. For example, "After reading Capt. Trimmer's book, the largest thing I've been hit by is a diesel bus".

141 posted on 06/18/2017 9:55:43 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: deport

Thank you. I knew I wasn’t that crazy.


142 posted on 06/18/2017 9:56:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SE Mom

Seems deliberate to me. Sort of reminds me of the Amagiri splitting PT-109 in half.


143 posted on 06/18/2017 10:02:42 AM PDT by donozark (JAMES COMEY: Democrat Presidential candidate 2020.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bump


144 posted on 06/18/2017 10:04:40 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bump


145 posted on 06/18/2017 10:04:44 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bump


146 posted on 06/18/2017 10:12:14 AM PDT by Guenevere ("I'm no longer a slave to fear, I am a child of God")
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To: Tigen
"My question is why no evasive measures!"

There are two possible explanations:

1. Criminal negligence by the Captain and crew of the destroyer.

2. The container ship's erratic course prior to striking the destroyer could indicate the container ship was stalking the destroyer. To successfully stalk the destroyer, the container ship would have had to have had radar cloaking equipment, and the purpose of this attack was to test the effectiveness of this radar cloaking equipment against a U.S. warship. If so, the attack was successful, and their radar cloaking equipment has been proven effective against our warships.

147 posted on 06/18/2017 10:23:42 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have never been in the Navy, know next to nothing about ships or sailing but look at that cargo carrier.

There is no way that huge thing could stalk and hit a destroyer. I bet it takes miles to turn around. Just plain common sense.


148 posted on 06/18/2017 10:30:01 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: KavMan
That person needs to get hanged!

Right on my brother! Screw an investigation, hang every one of them right now!


149 posted on 06/18/2017 10:37:49 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If a cow ever got the chance, heÂ’d eat you and everyone you ever cared about.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

A friend called me the morning of 9/11 to say turn on the tv and I immediately said it had to have been that O Ben whats his name without any further information.

This incident, the same. It was intentional. Now, seeing the U turn of the cargo ship, no doubt whatsoever. Throw in the no radar or lights.

The only question is why the heck did we not see it and act in time?


150 posted on 06/18/2017 10:39:23 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: onedoug
Enemy islamism until demonstrated otherwise

On both ships until demonstrated otherwise.

151 posted on 06/18/2017 10:43:20 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: butlerweave

Maybe the transponder was providing inaccurate information? In that case, who knows what course the container ship had actually taken.


152 posted on 06/18/2017 10:43:59 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: NTHockey

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=900&ct=4

“Sixty two ships are currently operating in the fleet (DDG 51 - 112). “

7 in Japan
7 in Hawaii
4 in Mayport, FL
17 in San Diego, CA
24 in Norfork, VA
2 Everett, Washington
1 no homeport


153 posted on 06/18/2017 11:01:11 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: sharkhawk
There are pictures in other threads showing the cargo ships track. How would that track be available if the transponder was off?

Maybe the cargo ship has a GPS that records its track and the log of its track was made available. Or, maybe someone in the "media" made it up to try and sell a juicy story.

The REAL story is too frightening to even think about, so the authorities made up the collision story to keep the public from panicking.

You see, the whales have become so enraged at our lack of concern for climate change that they are now attacking ships in revenge. In this case, two whales attacked two ships at the same time. They are really pissed at humans, and it will only get worse... if we don't all cough up a lot more money and let the ultra-rich climate change experts deal with this problem for us.

154 posted on 06/18/2017 11:03:54 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Thankfully we had a small boat radar and could pick them up, calculate their course and take evasive action.

Yet, you were able to avoid a disaster with one person on watch with an over the counter radar set up unlike a big bad US Navy destroyer with a dozen on watch with all the latest top secret equipment. It's not just fishy but rotten fishy.

155 posted on 06/18/2017 11:19:29 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: yarddog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Japan_Maritime_Self-Defense_Force_ships


156 posted on 06/18/2017 11:25:11 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Personal Responsibility
How do two ships collide in open water except on purpose?

Plenty of radar controlled collisions have taken place over the years especially in the days before true-motion displays. It's quite possible the container ship had no lookouts posted, just on autopilot. Not unusual at all. Still, Fitz should've seen it coming.

157 posted on 06/18/2017 12:35:41 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: proust
They sealed off all the berthing rooms, essentially trapping the sailors because they thought no one was in any of the rooms to avoid sinking the ship.”

No. Not that.

158 posted on 06/18/2017 12:42:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Timpanagos1

From a former Navy guy:
“My Thoughts on the USS Fitzgerald Collision”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcKco2m2Q8


159 posted on 06/18/2017 1:35:54 PM PDT by Darch
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To: bgill
It's not just fishy but rotten fishy.

I agree 100%.

Plus I didn't mention the fact that it can take a merchant ship a long time and distance to come to a stop.

Anywhere from a half mile to a mile or more.

I wonder if the Navy ship was trying to close on the cargo ship and board her?


160 posted on 06/18/2017 1:59:02 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best Long Term Prepper Tactic: Beat The Muslim Demographic Tsnami - Have Big Families)
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