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To: rktman

The story makes sense.

The container vessel hit the destroyer amidships. Thus the container vessel collided with the destroyer. Not the other way around as the msm has been headlining.

Fake news once again.


2 posted on 06/17/2017 7:05:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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To: freedumb2003

from the article: Given that ships move in a forward direction, not sideways, isn’t it fairly obvious which ship hit the other one?

There is an exception. 2 ships steaming a parallel course can sometime ‘bump’. The smaller vessel can get hydraulically ‘sucked-in’ by the larger vessel. This happened a couple of years ago when a submarine (a vessel without a sharp keel) was drawing into a supply vessel while steaming close aboard during a transfer operation.

Another observation... the OOD on the Destroyer had a responsibility to keep the destroyer well away from the less maneuverable vessel. If he got THAT close then he’s largely to blame.

Now there are extenuating circumstances: fog (or other low-visibility), narrow shipping channel, and so forth. A board of inquiry will need to sort those out.


11 posted on 06/17/2017 7:22:05 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: freedumb2003
Except for a number of basic truisms: The destroyer is more nimble than a container ship, and a great deal faster. We'd like to think that the destroyer is operated by a military-perfect crew using state of the art radar and course plotting technology. The destroyer would be like to know of the speed and course of the container ship LONG before the container ship knew anything.

I suspect that the destroyer tried to stop the container ship or cause it to change course. Maybe the destroyer was hot-dogging.

At any case, only an idiot would be able to be hit with a container ship while in a destroyer.

12 posted on 06/17/2017 7:22:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: freedumb2003

Hate to pop your bubble but from what I know of “Rules of the Road,” and CBDR - Constant Bearing Decreasing Range - and observing the location of damage on both vessels it appears the ships were in a “crossing” situation. That means the navy ship was the “give way” ship and the cargo ship was the “stand on” vessel. The stand on is required to hold course and speed, the give way is required to get out of the way. Turn left and slow speed. This will increase range and the bearing will be drifting right. There’s more but that should help everyone understand what might have happened. Having sailed/ raced sailboats all my life, and served in the submarine force for 23 years I have a basic knowledge of the rules. I also have some personal knowledge of maritime accidents — my brother lost his life in the collision of the USCG Blackthorn in Tampa Bay about thirty years ago. The Blackthorn was at fault. I hope I’m wrong in the situation.


38 posted on 06/17/2017 8:10:33 AM PDT by submarine571 (USAA)
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To: freedumb2003

Its exactly the same way the blur distinctions in cases involving firearms. It’s intentional disinformation.


58 posted on 06/17/2017 8:50:15 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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