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'None of it makes much sense': Experts are baffled by Comey's use of a fake [trunc]
BusinessInsider ^ | 31 May 2017 10:37am | Natasha Bertrand

Posted on 06/03/2017 1:57:07 AM PDT by blueplum

Full title: 'None of it makes much sense': Experts are baffled by Comey's use of a fake Russian document to skirt the DOJ

Former FBI, CIA, and Justice Department officials say they are baffled by reports that a fake Russian document affected former FBI Director James Comey's handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.

CNN reported Friday that Comey knew the document — a memo purporting to show collusion between Loretta Lynch, who was then the attorney general, and the Clinton campaign — was fake. That has raised questions about why he used it as justification to skirt the Department of Justice and hold a press conference last summer in which he skewered Clinton for her "extremely careless" use of a private email server while she was secretary of state and defended the bureau's decision not to recommend charges.

{snip} Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham told CNN on Sunday that Comey "never once told a member of the House or the Senate that he thought the email was fake" and would have been "incredibly incompetent" to act on a document he knew to be fraudulent.

"I can't imagine a scenario where it's OK for the FBI director to jump in the middle of an election based on a fake email generated by the Russians and not tell the Congress," Graham said.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: comey; graham; lindseygraham; natashabertrand; russiadossier; scottolsen; trumprussia; yates
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To: Prospero

“How is a document “largely if not entirely” fraudulent? It either is or is not, right?”

Professional disinformation would probably bury the fraudulent tidbits within a lot of accurate data gleaned from public sources plus some mundane private investigation. The dates and locations for any serious fake claims would be backed into, based on research into when and where the subject might have been available, or when the subject has no public alibi. The intended red meat of the document might be fraudulent, with 95% of the document being accurate filler.

I have grave doubts that the FBI determined the anti-Trump dossier was a “Russian plant consisting of bad intelligence” since it was known that Jeb supporters, then Hlllary supporters paid the Democrat “political intelligence” operation Fusion GPS, which hired and paid Christopher Steele to solicit and create the opposition research on Trump, resulting in the “dossier”. There is a narrative that suggests that Fusion GPS was actually a paid lobbyist for Russia, and that channel was used to hide the fact that Russia was behind the “opposition research”, giving GPS Fusion the job of recruiting US clients as a cover story for introducing the whole thing.

Seems very far-fetched, as does the notion that the anti-Trump dossier, which Comey knew to be false, somehow prompted Comey to let Hillary off the hook for her server crimes. The rationale would be that Comey saw Hillary’s gross negligence, the WikiLeaks exposure of Dem party and Hillary crookedness, and now dishing false dirt on Trump as all part of a Russian plot to influence the election, that he would save us from — by letting Hillary walk and trump hang. It doesn’t wash.


61 posted on 06/03/2017 8:25:16 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: blueplum
I heard other reports saying that the authenticity of the document was DISPUTED, not KNOWN to be fake. I also read that the FBI didn't even interview the specific individuals mentioned in the memo. The only "evidence" that the document was fake was the denial of those people that they knew each other. "Oh, ok, we'll take your word for it. Case closed."

My suspicion is that they are calling the document "fake" because it indicates that the Obama DOJ was in collusion with the Clinton campaign and possibly other left-wing activist groups.

This whole thing stinks. Sorry, FBI, I don't trust you anymore. Not about ANYTHING.
62 posted on 06/03/2017 8:28:49 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: blueplum

The explanation that Comey knowingly used a fake document as a pretext for going public with the results of the email investigation simply doesn’t make sense. If we still had journalists in this country, they’d be digging into this extremely suspicious story. My explanation for all of this is that the document was NOT fake, and that is why the media are avoiding delving into it.


63 posted on 06/03/2017 8:39:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle; sdthree

I’ve read in a few places it was an email from DWS to a ?Geraldo, representative of Soros, that Lynch would not be indicting HRC.


64 posted on 06/03/2017 8:47:33 AM PDT by txhurl (Time to blow the Queen and King off the board, DJT, and by your birthday, or on it!)
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To: stylin19a

to #64


65 posted on 06/03/2017 8:52:27 AM PDT by txhurl (Time to blow the Queen and King off the board, DJT, and by your birthday, or on it!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

But he was a banker/money-guy after the Dems made his that way. First he was an assistant US Attorney. Tasked to investigate the Clinton pardon of Marc Rich (the most wanted billionaire in the world0 as influenced by Rich’s wife and her millions in influence. He let them off.

Immediately rewarded by a legal counsel post at Lockheed Martin where after a few years on the gravy train for the Defense Contractor he left with a Six Million cash bonus to go to the Board of HSBC Bank, the largest British private bank.

Problem to be solved HSBC was the largest drug cartel money laundering bank doing the same for Arab money as well. They were so dirty that they would likely be put down. But big donations for the Clintons’ foundation and speaking fees for Bill and poof they are let off with only a fine. No one goes to jail or is even charged.

So after that facilitating, he gets put in the FBI as a ‘token” republican with no law enforcement experience. See a pattern here?


66 posted on 06/03/2017 9:00:49 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Fhios

Bottom line - do we know anything about anything?

We are being gaslighted to no end. We are merely pawns being jerked around. This whole monstrous government has to be taken down. The institutions created to protect us have become our biggest enemies.


67 posted on 06/03/2017 9:06:05 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: blueplum

“memo purporting to show collusion between Loretta Lynch, and the Clinton campaign”

Didn’t need a memo unless you believe Loretta and Billy Jeff were discussing grandkids on the Phoenix tarmac.

5.56mm


68 posted on 06/03/2017 9:15:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: blueplum

It makes lots of sense once you stop pretending that Comey isn’t a dirty cop.


69 posted on 06/03/2017 9:26:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: KC Burke

I guess I should add to my #66 with how Hillary made one of her pay-offs to Comey. Comey’s brother owed him for a $700,000 loan (like you loan that to your brother everyday.)

How to funnel money to Comey? Well you hire his brother to do an eyewash audit of the Clinton Foundation when the Foundation is being looked at by the FBI. That loan gets payments made a lot easier when you are being paid big bucks by Hillary.


70 posted on 06/03/2017 9:56:43 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Thanks... what you say all makes sense to me now our interest is on George Webb, Rob Wheeler, relating to who murdered Seth Rich.


71 posted on 06/03/2017 9:57:54 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (Not much to say, yet.)
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To: Stingray51

Or maybe the memo was real or believed to be by Comey. Is that not the most simple explanation? CNN reporting something does not establish it as fact.

Limited hangout and he bids for control of any real legal consequences while being “sure” that Trump can’t win. I like it.


72 posted on 06/03/2017 10:03:41 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: virgil

Comey was 3000 miles away when he was sacked. He heard about it on the news that he was out. During that time sessions and his men cleaned out the FBI-DIRTBAG’S office. There will be more information to follow as sessions filters through the information. We will watch for red herrings. But I do believe the closer we get more people will disappear and die. The swamp is deep and ugly. Who murdered Seth rich? Where is Rob Wheeler and we must listen to George Webb.


73 posted on 06/03/2017 10:10:12 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (Not much to say, yet.)
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74 posted on 06/03/2017 10:11:45 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: blueplum

“a memo purporting to show collusion between Loretta Lynch, who was then the attorney general, and the Clinton campaign”

This is supposed to be considered implausible?


75 posted on 06/03/2017 10:18:50 AM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: rusureitflies?

Where is Rob Wheeler and we must listen to George Webb.

I’m having a devil of a time following what Jason Goodman and George are digging into. George did give a nice summary today.


76 posted on 06/03/2017 10:22:38 AM PDT by Stentor
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“Over the weekend, The New York Times reported that Clinton was considering keeping Lynch on as attorney general if she was elected president.

“Then on Tuesday, Director James Comey announced that the FBI would not be recommending the Department of Justice pursue charges against Clinton.”

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/trump-on-report-clinton-to-keep-lynch-on-as-ag-its-a-bribe-video/


77 posted on 06/03/2017 10:25:42 AM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: blueplum

Translation: the document needs to be “fake” now, therefore it has been declared to be “fake.” Comey goes under the bus.


78 posted on 06/03/2017 10:29:06 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Prospero

Well, “largely” would mean that most of it is fake and “entirely” would mean that all of it was fake.

The memo recommending Comey’s firing said it was not his decision to recommend charges or not. So whether it was fake or real, Comey did not follow due process.


79 posted on 06/03/2017 10:49:56 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: mad_as_he$$

they are all gamers and the result is we have a secret Mafioso type govt....the Toons, bammys and comey and McCabe etc are evil elitists and who knows how many crimes committed to protect their cabal.


80 posted on 06/03/2017 10:50:07 AM PDT by cherry
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