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Big Bang Blowup at Scientific American
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-30-2017 | Jake Hebert, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/30/2017 10:44:18 AM PDT by fishtank

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1 posted on 05/30/2017 10:44:18 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank
"They argued that inflation can never be shown to be wrong—it cannot be falsified—and therefore inflation isn’t even a scientific hypothesis."

One can say the same thing about Darwinian evolution.

2 posted on 05/30/2017 10:46:34 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: fishtank

The whole thing really cracks me up. For me, big bang = “let there be light.”


3 posted on 05/30/2017 10:46:44 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: fishtank

Let there be Light.


4 posted on 05/30/2017 10:49:10 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: fishtank

“By claiming that inflationary cosmology lies outside the scientific method, IS&L are dismissing the research of not only all the authors of this letter but also that of a substantial contingent of the scientific community.”

I’m embarrassed for Guth, et al. that they would even write this. Which sort of rhetorical fallacy is it, “appeal to authority”, or “argument by consensus”? It certainly isn’t a scientific argument.


5 posted on 05/30/2017 10:52:32 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: fishtank

It shouldn’t have taken professors at Princeton and Harvard to recognize the difference between mysticism and science.

But there’s no grant money in discernment along those lines, is there.


6 posted on 05/30/2017 10:53:13 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: fishtank

The big bang is like abiogenesis. No scientist can even begin to explain how or why it happened, so it is an article of faith that it did happen. Just like the creation story.

The difference is that religious people know they are accepting creation on faith, where scientists huff about in self-righteous indignation that anyone would dare question “science”.


7 posted on 05/30/2017 10:55:54 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: fishtank

If the Universe is ‘expanding’, what is it ‘expanding’ into?.............


8 posted on 05/30/2017 10:56:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (You can't assimilate one whose entire reason for being here is to not assimilate in the first place.)
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To: All
"Scientific American":

Neither;
Scientific
or
American.

Discuss.

9 posted on 05/30/2017 10:56:44 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: fishtank

The Big Bang theory cannot seriously be questioned, due to the enormous volume of evidence. But there are gaps and inconsistencies which suggest we don’t fully understand it. Inflation is one “patch” that seems to cover most of those gaps, but lacks empirical evidence other than conveniently explaining the lack of clumpiness that mathematical models otherwise produce. We can see from the microwave background a certain amount of clumpiness that shouldn’t be there as well. Science isn’t perfect, but what are the alternatives?


10 posted on 05/30/2017 10:57:06 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: fishtank

Like global warming, cosmic inflation is settled science. Fire those three physicists who dared to question it! Revoke their degrees. And ban them from working in the field, ever again.

That is, after all, the accepted way of handling dissent these days.


11 posted on 05/30/2017 11:00:23 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Mr. Douglas; fishtank
"However, physicists later realized this version of inflation theory was too simplistic."

For me, big bang = “let there be light.”

The whole point of the article is that "Big Bang" is not an adequate scientific explanation for observed phenomena.

"Big Bang" is not to be misunderstood as "Let there be Light," because "Big Bang" is not a suitable scientific model to describe anything science can either observe or quantify.

The Scripture is true as stated in and of itself. Jesus Christ spoke the entire creation into existence from the first light to the first man (John 1:1-5). It is little wonder then that Jesus Himself is also known as "The WORD."

FReegards!

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12 posted on 05/30/2017 11:00:24 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: fishtank

If that picture doesn’t get you thinking... nothing will.

So much fertile ground for the advancement of knowledge.


13 posted on 05/30/2017 11:07:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: hopespringseternal

Science isn’t about ‘why’, which smuggles in the premise there is a mind behind the cosmos. Science should be about ‘what’ and ‘how’.


14 posted on 05/30/2017 11:13:18 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"The Big Bang theory cannot seriously be questioned, due to the enormous volume of evidence"
Cite ONE non self-referential piece of evidence.

Didn't think so...
-Hugh
15 posted on 05/30/2017 11:13:37 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: fishtank

Question anything you want, as long as it’s not anthropogenic climate change.


16 posted on 05/30/2017 11:17:13 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Well said.


17 posted on 05/30/2017 11:21:26 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Hugh the Scot

1. The microwave background.
2. The red-shifting of distant galaxies.
3. The evolved appearance of distant galaxy clusters.
4. The delayed light curve of distant supernovae.
5. The proportion of hydrogen, helium, and lithium in the universe almost exactly matching mathematical models of nucleosynthesis in a hot, dense early universe.
6. The increasing detected temperature of the microwave background with distance.

This points to a universe that is cooling and expanding. And if it is expanding, it must have had a beginning. For someone with a religious background, neither do I see how this conflicts with the Bible. If someone has an alternative explanations for the points I’ve given, I’d like to hear them.


18 posted on 05/30/2017 11:22:34 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

tons of google links of doubts about the big bang and even cosmic microwave background...

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/05/doubts-shroud-big-bang-discovery


19 posted on 05/30/2017 11:28:44 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Red Badger

Exactly. If matter is not present (and its affects on space-time) can there be space-time? The old tree falls in the forest question.

Wonder what the expanding boundary or the edge of the universe looks like? If it is expanding.


20 posted on 05/30/2017 11:30:48 AM PDT by dhs12345
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