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To: fishtank

The big bang is like abiogenesis. No scientist can even begin to explain how or why it happened, so it is an article of faith that it did happen. Just like the creation story.

The difference is that religious people know they are accepting creation on faith, where scientists huff about in self-righteous indignation that anyone would dare question “science”.


7 posted on 05/30/2017 10:55:54 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

Science isn’t about ‘why’, which smuggles in the premise there is a mind behind the cosmos. Science should be about ‘what’ and ‘how’.


14 posted on 05/30/2017 11:13:18 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Well said.


17 posted on 05/30/2017 11:21:26 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: hopespringseternal

Exactly.

But interestingly, the Bible seems to imply relativistic effects in a couple of places. In Psalm 104:2 and in Isaiah 40:22 scripture speaks of the heavens being stretched forth like a curtain. That sounds like they were moving far faster than the speed of light as they were being stretched forth. It certainly implies something far faster than the usual slow progression of heavenly bodies across the sky.


36 posted on 05/30/2017 12:04:34 PM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: hopespringseternal

Exactly.

But interestingly, the Bible seems to imply relativistic effects in a couple of places. In Psalm 104:2 and in Isaiah 40:22 scripture speaks of the heavens being stretched forth like a curtain. That sounds like they were moving far faster than the speed of light as they were being stretched forth. It certainly implies something far faster than the usual slow progression of heavenly bodies across the sky.


37 posted on 05/30/2017 12:06:01 PM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: hopespringseternal
>>The difference is that religious people know they are accepting creation on faith

Assuming dominion over the faith of others by asserting that, unless we accept the fallible and uninspired opinion that the world is only 6000 years old, we can't possibly be part of THEIR body of Christ.... certainly is religious.

57 posted on 05/30/2017 12:54:06 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: hopespringseternal
No scientist can even begin to explain how or why it happened,

And they admit that there's no way to know what came before "the big bang" by its definition, so there is no way to know what might have caused it.

Mark

122 posted on 05/30/2017 8:46:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: hopespringseternal
Creation is fully revealed while faith is the evidence of things not seen.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

126 posted on 05/30/2017 11:26:18 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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