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Want Single-Payer, California? Go for It!
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | May 23, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/23/2017 2:49:29 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: California. California is pushing for a single-payer health care system. Democrat leaders — “progressives” in California — want the state to just get out of Obamacare totally and replace Obamacare with a single-payer, state health care system. From the Sacramento Bee: “It would cost $400 billion [per year] to remake California’s health insurance marketplace and create a publicly funded universal heath care system…” Do you know what the California state budget is per year? It’s $180 billion.

The state budget of California is $180 billion. The Democrats there are serious in proposing that California go single payer. It would cost $400 billion. California would have to come up with… If they spent their entire existing budget on it, they would still need to come up with $200 billion additional dollars, and they’ve got a plan. According to the Los Angeles Times, the way they’re gonna make this money up is by way of a 15% payroll tax. Fifteen percent payroll tax. This $400 billion, I don’t think even gets close to what this is really gonna cost.

Original government estimates of the cost of anything are it never right; they’re always low. When you top off this, you pay for this with a 15% payroll tax, that’s not even gonna get close to paying for it. What kind of economic activity is that gonna choke off? And, by the way, illegals and undocumented citizens… I’m sorry. They’re not citizens. Illegals and undocumented residents would be fully entitled to single-payer health care, even though they’re not paying for it. If they’re employed under the table, there is no payroll tax; they’re not paying it.

Everybody else has to pay it for them. That’s why $400 billion isn’t gonna be enough. What do you think a 15% payroll tax is gonna do to job creation in California? What’s gonna happen to the California economy? They’re not even thinking of that. They’re just thinking about how wonderful it sounds to promote single payer, and they think that at $400 billion, they should do it. They also have a plan for a fast train (I forget the term they use for it) from LA to San Francisco. That’s $64 billion for the super-fast train, now $400 billion for state-run single payer, and the California budget at present maxes out at $180 billion.

And the only mechanism they have is new taxes. A payroll tax of 15%, they say, would cover it. And if you analyze that, the only… A static analysis might give you somewhere… But there’s no way that people are gonna pay that. If there’s a 15% payroll tax, what do you think businesses are gonna do? They’re gonna let people off. That’s just unacceptable. That’s 15% on top of what the federal is! I mean, it’s absurd, and yet they’re dead serious about it. I hope it happens. I hope they actually move on this. I hope there is public action on this that the American people are able to witness.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: healthcare
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1 posted on 05/23/2017 2:49:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Doctors would flee the state in droves......................


2 posted on 05/23/2017 2:53:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Kaslin
The relevant number for available funds is not$400 billion. It is the total value of the non elite private citizens in California. All of that is accessible and will be expropriated in due time to fund this vision of Utopia wherein everyone has equal access to healthcare.

That all, of course, doesn't mean any particular non elite person gets to see a doctor when he is ill or receives medicine or treatment for any particular condition but, in healthcare, he is equal to everyone else and all have "access" in that everyone has an equal right to fill out forms.

3 posted on 05/23/2017 2:54:26 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Kaslin

Saw a guy in front of the .99 cents store in Chino Hills CA today getting signatures to impeach the local State Rep for voting to raise the gas tax .12 cents. Much more to come even in libertard CA if the madness continues. See Gray Davis.


4 posted on 05/23/2017 2:55:24 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Red Badger
Doctors would flee the state in droves......................

Except for the plastic surgeons who work for cash.

5 posted on 05/23/2017 2:57:35 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Kaslin
they’re not paying for it. If they’re employed under the table,
6 posted on 05/23/2017 3:01:03 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Kaslin

How quickly can they get it in place I wonder? I’m in CA and about to retire, hope they don’t upset my situ.


7 posted on 05/23/2017 3:06:49 PM PDT by umgud
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Silicon valley is where programming jobs are...otherwise I would not let the door hit my backside on my way out of this crazy state.


8 posted on 05/23/2017 3:07:04 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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I own a small business in Orange County, Ca. If this plan goes through I can say with certainty that my business will not survive. Most businesses in my industry will also go away. The same will happen in most industries. Unemployment will skyrocket. Commercial real estate will plummet along with residential real estate. This will be an unforced error of unparalleled proportions. The golden goose within the golden state will be dead. We will have many new residents from around the world to add to our destitute population, however.

To think that a small handful of democRAT politicians including our geriatric governor should be pushing this program is absurd. Its only purpose is to appease the crazies of our state and to buy votes for re-election forever and forever.


9 posted on 05/23/2017 3:08:23 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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If California voters want a single payer system let them have it. When the costs are orders of magnitude greater than the original projections and the revenue from new taxes fall below those originally projected it will serve as a cautionary example for other states that propose these utopian schemes.


10 posted on 05/23/2017 3:35:31 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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California has voted down “single payer” several times.

I think that now that they have 10 million+ fake votes to employ, they think it might pass.

Jerry added a bunch of illegals in with Motor Voter recently.


11 posted on 05/23/2017 3:39:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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If I were a Californian, I would vote for it as I was packing my bags.


12 posted on 05/23/2017 3:41:23 PM PDT by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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To: ThanhPhero

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Correct.

A plastic card doesn’t equal health!
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13 posted on 05/23/2017 3:42:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: joshua c

I oversee the preparation of sales tax returns at work. We file in CA. LA county just raised their sales tax a half point. Many counties are up to 10%.

I wonder what the total tax burden is for a resident of CA?


14 posted on 05/23/2017 3:45:14 PM PDT by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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To: joshua c

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The flaw in your bag packing theory is that a huge percentage have once packed their bags to get in here, and there is no way they want to go back to what they left.

And they are the ones that are sinking us with their leftist brainstorms.
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15 posted on 05/23/2017 3:45:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Timocrat
re:When the costs are orders of magnitude greater than the original projections and the revenue from new taxes fall below those originally projected it will serve as a cautionary example for other states that propose these utopian schemes.

It never seems to work that way. The cautionary example part.
Years ago Rush observed, “Being Liberal means never having to say you are sorry.” If California goes ahead with the plan and disaster ensues, the Democrat politicians will never take responsibility. They will simply blame Trump and the Republicans, and their base and the MSM will agree.

16 posted on 05/23/2017 3:47:09 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: editor-surveyor
California has voted down “single payer” several times.

They'll just keep making you vote until they get the "right" result.

17 posted on 05/23/2017 3:49:06 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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“From the Sacramento Bee: “It would cost $400 billion [per year] to remake California’s health insurance marketplace and create a publicly funded universal heath care system…” Do you know what the California state budget is per year? It’s $180 billion. The state budget of California is $180 billion. The Democrats there are serious in proposing that California go single payer.

My wife and I heard this data from a SF Bay Area TV.

As a nurse, she is great at figuring appropriate doses of meds for patients of any weight, age and other factors.

This stuff makes her head spin, but she said, “Whoa, are they using new math here?”

I suggested that she forget the billion $’s and use $400 and $180 for a year re costs and what the state income is per year.

She immediately got the right answer. She said. “To pay for this Health Care for California for a year, they can’t spend a dime on anything else and need to borrow or get funding from DC for more than double our yearly budget if this happens.

Then being a nurse, she said that countries would be sending boat loads and plane loads of theif sick people to California for free health care.

I told her not to forget the people in the rest of America who will be flocking to California for free medical care in California.

Then, I told her that in 2015, U.S. health care spending increased 5.8 percent to reach $3.2 trillion, or $9,990 per person.

At that point, she said that she didn’t want any more math lessons.


18 posted on 05/23/2017 3:50:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (120+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Thanks, President Trump for this great reality gift!)
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To: Timocrat

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Yep, that’s what they did with fluoridated water!
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19 posted on 05/23/2017 3:51:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kaslin

Tax Hollywood 50% and go for it CA. The rest of us will watch your “progress.”


20 posted on 05/23/2017 3:53:15 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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