Trump with the saudi salafists(or at least dancing to their jihadri drums) - LIVE THREAD

Golden State Times ^ | May 20, 2017 | Golden State Times

[Eurotwit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBdPY_Xrdds

Hillary kissed their beh.....

So did GWB.

So did Obummer.

And, pretty much any post ww2 president.

Is Trump different?

Remember that Obama sort of started his Presidency with his Cairo speech.

Now let us listen to Trump in salafi central.

Basically visiting the Sith empire.

Will he embrace the dark side like all American Presidents before him?

My money is on "yes"

What say you?

[Eurotwit]

I told you all western leaders have bowed, since oil became a thing.

[caww]

You’re talking old school geo-politics....

Trumps just restored the center of Muslim power in the ME from Obama’s Iran trajectory to US Saudi’s traditional center of power.....

You need to see through the eyes of the muslim states and US relations.... and not Europes history there....

The problem with muslims isn’t muslims as much as it is what form of Islam they practice.....Islam itself is the problem..

[blueplum]

I’ll take your money. 80% of the world muslims are sunni. The public honoring of Trump on a grand scale sends a message worldwide. Had Trump visited a shia majority country first (Lebanon or Bahrain for instance), he would have alienated the sunn and our plans for a working ME coalition united against wahabbi and jihad extremism would have been over.

[DesertRhino]

Sunni islam is much worse than Shite. For one thing, they are about 90% of islam. For another, they have been behind almost all of the terror since 9/11.
9/11, Boston, Moscow theater, Beslan, Paris, Brussels, Nice, Malmo, London, Madrid, Fort Hood, the Shoe Bomber, the underwear bomber, Boko Haram, ISIS, the misery in Libya, the moslem wave in America, the Egyptian terror, PPakistanis hiding Bin Ladin, the Bali bombings, the Mumbai massacre, etc. All Sunni. All having roots in Gulf and Saudi money.
Shites are a more direct threat to the Israelis because of Hezbollah. But the Sunnis are not some benign brand of islam that we should be thankful is on top.

[DesertRhino]

In practice today, Sunni and Wahabbist are synonymous. All the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia are wahabbist.

[caww]

Regardless of it’s form and practice ALL of Islam has a mandate to populate and conquer the world for Islam....that’s not going to change ....neither will Putins desire for his sphere of economic control...and China’s going for the gold of Emperor Rule as the new Global leader via the new silk road project etc.

Obama attempted to hardwire himself and the US to Iran...a defined and ‘officially stated Terrorist State’....who is the main supplier of Isis, Alqueda and Taliban as well as other terrorist groups.....with Turkey not far behind them both of which desire to create instability in the ME..........so the balance of power had to be restored....Trump just established that through the events we see playing out today.....and Saudi has made certain the entire ME is watching.

That does not mean we don’t see Islam as it is....it means that it matters who and when you support whom and what in the ME......

There are and always will be EU,US, Russia, China and Islam’s geo-political pecking order........heck as soon as erkel got a cold shoulder from Trump she ran to the arms of Putin as usual.....

It’s a constant fluid arena of play.....but today was indeed historical and upped the game....fascinating in every way!

[caww]

We all recognize that whatever terrorist groups are supported that every nation involved, including us, gets behind the ones that tend to benefit whatever position held at the moment on the world stage...and it's especially fluid in the Middle East and always has been that way. We will assuredly disagree over who is worse between Sunni's and Shia’s.....Sunni's have always been capable of at least dialog and understanding of how the overall world works.....Shia’s are all about conquering through violence for the most part because of their estalogical belief in their coming Madi....which 'requires the world be in chaos' so they create these bloody wars and infighting believing they can bring in their Madi So no Sunni's are not worse....

[Parley Baer]

But we here in the USA do not need Saudi oil.

[Bookshelf]

You hit it on Eurotwit. Why such puerile garbage is permitted on FR is beyond me.

[Dr. Ursus]

Birthed and nourished by the British in the late 19th century to destabilize the Ottman empire.

[Eurotwit]

Shia terror, versus sunni terror.

It aint even a contest.

[LS]

Huh?

[Eurotwit]

The President is about to hold a historic speech about islam.....

That ws Obama’s first thing too.

The Cairo speech.

God, I miss the day when I didn’t even know wtf islam even was.

[Rusty0604]

TRex said today that the arms deal will enable Saudis to defend themselves and save American’s money.

[BeadCounter]

Thanks. I just signed on. Well, we won’t be fighting their wars. From what I’ve understood, the Saudis have wanted to go into Syria with Turkey as an ally and have wanted US air support.

[BeadCounter]

Heck, I don’t think anyone even posted it, 141 were killed in Libya in the past two days; and, it may be even that one side carried out a bunch of executions... and, it may be too, ah, one can read the articles for themselves if interested.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hundreds-reported-killed-libya-airbase-attack-19248732

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[Rusty0604]

I just wish their whole religious and oil, gas fights would not involve the rest of the world. Let them fight it out, and we won’t take refugees.

[abclily]

Obama bowed more deeply, since the House of Saud paid his tuition to Harvard.