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Democratic Leaders Try to Slow Calls to Impeach Trump
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2017 | Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns

Posted on 05/19/2017 5:39:04 AM PDT by Reno89519

WASHINGTON — When House Democratic leaders hastily called a news conference Wednesday to demonstrate their outrage at President Trump’s latest dramatics, they took great pains to show they were not seeking to railroad him out of the White House.

“No one ought to, in my view, rush to embrace the most extraordinary remedy that involves the removal of the president from office,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the sober-minded senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. He warned that Democrats should not let their actions “be perceived as an effort to nullify the election by other means.”

At that very moment, Representative Al Green, Democrat of Texas, was in the well of the House thundering, “The president must be impeached!”

The barrage of reports about Mr. Trump’s chaotic and controversial administration has helped revive Democrats, raising their hopes that they can ride a Trumpian backlash to great success in next year’s elections. But with the cloud over the White House darkening each day, liberal activists are courting a backlash of their own as they demand of their lawmakers nothing short of driving the president from office by any means necessary.

The demands of the radicalized party base are being amplified by growing calls from a series of Democratic candidates for statewide office who, in an effort to outflank their primary rivals, have started clamoring for Mr. Trump’s impeachment.

Democratic members of Congress have for weeks sought to find their own political safe space when it comes to questions about removing Mr. Trump, calling for a special prosecutor and a thorough investigation and airing of all the facts. But the decision Wednesday by the Justice Department to name the former F.B.I. director Robert S. Mueller III as special counsel for the investigation into Russia’s interference in last year’s election has complicated their position.

The appointment drew praise from many quarters of the party but also statements that it was not enough.

“This latest move by the Trump administration is too little, too late,” declared Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the liberal advocacy group Democracy for America. “We cannot afford to have Congress sit back and watch this play out the same way it just did, with Trump and his stooges obstructing another investigation into their corruption and high crimes. Congress needs to act now to impeach Trump.”

Such demands, and the deluge of stories detailing what progressives believe amounts to high crimes and misdemeanors, are making it increasingly difficult for lawmakers to maintain a judicious posture. So far, members of the Congressional Black Caucus are taking the most aggressive tack, a recognition of the boiling anger toward the president in many black communities.

In a speech to the liberal Center for American Progress on Tuesday, Representative Maxine Waters of California drew applause and whistles when she reminded the audience of her insistence that Mr. Trump be driven from office. But even more notably, Ms. Waters, a veteran lawmaker, has also been intensifying pressure on her colleagues to recognize the threat she said is posed by a reckless president.

“I know that there are those who are talking about, ‘Well, we’re going to get ready for the next election,’” she said, mimicking her more cautious colleagues. “No, we can’t wait that long. We don’t need to wait that long. He will have destroyed this country by then.”

Liberals are planning a series of nationwide protests on July 2 known as “Impeachment Marches” to increase the pressure.

“We expect them to call for impeachment,” said Delia Brown, one of the organizers of the march in Los Angeles. “This is now the zeitgeist, it’s the demands of people we’re responding to.”

MoveOn.org, one of the most influential liberal organizing groups, sent an email alert Wednesday suggesting that activists tell lawmakers: “If news reports are true, this is obstruction of justice, and Congress must impeach.”

By day’s end, the impeachment drive had spread beyond the activist left: J.B. Pritzker, a prominent Democratic donor and businessman who is running for governor of Illinois, publicly demanded that the House initiate proceedings against Mr. Trump. He said other investigative options were too slow.

“We simply do not have the luxury of time to wait for months or years to determine whether the current president of the United States has committed high crimes and misdemeanors,” Mr. Pritzker said, adding: “The House must begin the impeachment process before Donald Trump puts us at risk again.”

Most congressional Democrats are still wary about calling for Mr. Trump to be frog-marched out of the West Wing. The expectations of their base, they believe, are outrunning what is feasible as long as Republicans control both chambers of Congress.

The fear, Democratic officials say, is that they will invite the sort of backlash from their base that Republicans got for overpromising about what was possible while President Barack Obama was in office. They argue that methodically building a case — obtaining and revealing any memos or White House recordings, for example — is the soundest approach if they are to bring Republicans along.

Even Senator Bernie Sanders, the liberal Vermont firebrand, counseled patience. “What needs to happen is that we have got to go forward with an absolutely bipartisan investigation,” Mr. Sanders said. “The public must understand this is not a Democratic issue.”

Senator Richard J. Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, was even more forceful in speaking of the party’s activists.

“They wanted the president gone on November the 10th of last year,” Mr. Durbin said. “I want to make certain that we follow the law, follow the Constitution, do it in an orderly way and not to get into a crazed political crusade at this point.”

But such a measured approach is not sufficient for those progressives who are channeling the fierce urgency of now.

The loudest calls for impeachment on Wednesday came from candidates running on the left in Democratic primary elections: In Virginia and New Jersey, two states holding off-year elections for governor this fall, insurgent primary candidates insisted that Congress must begin a process that could end with Mr. Trump’s removal. In Illinois, one of Mr. Pritzker’s primary challengers, Daniel Biss, a state senator, also called for impeachment proceedings to begin.

Tom Perriello, a former House member from Virginia who is running for governor, said in an interview that he would have joined Mr. Green’s call for impeachment if he were still in Congress. “A lot of Democratic voters and a lot of independents right now want to figure out a constitutional process for impeaching Donald Trump,” he said, adding: “We’re talking about, now, something that makes Watergate look like child’s play.”

Jim Johnson, a former Clinton administration official running on the left in the New Jersey primary, similarly invoked Watergate. “If the findings are such that President Trump obstructed justice, Congress must begin impeachment proceedings,” Mr. Johnson said in a statement.

For the most part, more establishment-aligned Democratic candidates declined to go that far. In New Jersey, for instance, Mr. Johnson’s chief Democratic opponent, Phil Murphy, a former ambassador to Germany, stopped at the appointment of a special prosecutor. Party strategists fear that Democrats might sacrifice the moral and political high ground by appearing too eager, and some leaders worry that an impeachment drumbeat would drown out Democrats’ message to voters on kitchen-table issues like health care and taxes.

At the House news conference, the bind facing the minority was clear: Mr. Trump’s possible connections to Russia are central to their opposition and downright irresistible. The lawmakers appeared flanked by a picture of Mr. Trump shaking hands with Sergey V. Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, and two screens projecting the Twitter hashtag “#ProtectOurDemocracy.”

Yet even as impeachment rumblings continued to build, the party leaders seemed to warn colleagues against overplaying their hand.

“I’m not afraid of the i-word,” Representative Joseph Crowley of New York, chairman of the Democratic caucus, said coyly. “It’s independent. Independent commission, independent investigator.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; democrats; dncstrategy; dopeydems; impeach; second100days; trump
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To: Reno89519

Anyone else sick and tired of listening to their constant whining? It’s way past being annoying. They’re like a screaming brat who won’t SHUT UP. A good paddling would stop the foolishness. The GOP needs to bring out mama’s fly swat. There are skeletons on everyone in DC. Start airing the head whiners’ dirty laundry and force the msm to start reporting real news.


21 posted on 05/19/2017 6:33:12 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Liz

Good to see you back on duty and posting. :)


22 posted on 05/19/2017 6:33:44 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Reno89519

Despite their general ignorance of history, some Democrats have remarkably good powers of self-preservation. And they see the danger to themselves from an attempt to impeach Trump. Personally, I think a conviction of Trump in the Senate would touch off a dirty, bloody phase of the civil war that has already begun. There will be retribution against Democrats, and it won’t be centrally coordinated; assassination of media figures and Democrat politicians in the dead of night, poisonings, beatings, sniper attacks on motorcades. Not good for the continued gravy train for Democrats, hence the call to “slow up.”


23 posted on 05/19/2017 6:35:27 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

We all got POTUS’ back and will defend him. The 2nd amendment lets us defend against tyranny of the Authoritarian left of the deep state if necessary.


24 posted on 05/19/2017 6:35:54 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Reno89519
Representative Al Green, Democrat of Texas, was in the well of the House thundering, “The president must be impeached!”


25 posted on 05/19/2017 6:50:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Reno89519
Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the liberal advocacy group Democracy for America

Here's that retrograde little hippie:

Remember, folks, these constant calls for "democracy" are just another way of saying "extinguish the Republic and the republican form of government and replace it with 'democratic' socialism."

26 posted on 05/19/2017 6:57:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Reno89519

Notice how they sent out the stupidest D-members of Congress to use the “impeach” word - Maxine Waters and Al Green, so the rest have cover. These two thrive on stupid comments, because it probably helps them with their constituents.


27 posted on 05/19/2017 6:57:53 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: facedown

***They always tell you exactly what they’re doing.***

Spot on!


28 posted on 05/19/2017 7:15:27 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Reno89519

They need to get rid of Mike Pence first. Then they impeach Donald Trump. I imagine they’d prefer that be simultaneous so they get Paul Ryan as president, but that would be awfully hard to swing.


29 posted on 05/19/2017 7:45:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Reno89519

Mr. Pritzker said, adding: “The House must begin the impeachment process before Donald Trump puts us at risk again.”

...and the first time was?

...and no pun intended, you have unimpeachable evidence.


30 posted on 05/19/2017 7:47:10 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Reno89519

Their internal polls must tell them Their strategy is not working.


31 posted on 05/19/2017 8:05:44 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Reno89519

Obviously, didn’t poll well.


32 posted on 05/19/2017 8:09:18 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: backwoods-engineer
There will be retribution against Democrats, and it won’t be centrally coordinated...

I'm surprised there isn't already some of the same kind of "push-back" on the dems... like screaming at them to shut down any talking, breaking windows, burning cars, and throwing objects at the opposition... and anything else they've done without consequence.

I'm telling you - no consequences for this stuff only means we can do it without consequences too.

33 posted on 05/19/2017 8:10:35 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: Reno89519

The Communists (AKA “Democrats”) want nothing less than a coup. Keep your guns ready in case they succeed.


34 posted on 05/19/2017 8:27:38 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and thse religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: Reno89519
Chart of the results:


35 posted on 05/19/2017 9:23:42 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Arm_Bears

They are slowing the impeachment rants down because they need time to intimidate the cowardly Republicans in the House and Senate to do their bidding and allow an impeachment to occur. Granted with the jelly donut the Republican congress has a spine it won’t take long.


36 posted on 05/19/2017 11:23:51 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: GreenHornet

Buy stock in Kevlar catcher’s mitts, because that’s what they’re going to need A LOT of...


37 posted on 05/19/2017 1:10:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (Americ)
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To: Albion Wilde
Wonder if the Mexican drug cartels can "do their thing" with Al Green.

We'll accept custody of the head for decorating a post in his home district.

38 posted on 05/19/2017 1:12:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (Americ)
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To: Liz
MoveOn.org, one of the most influential liberal organizing groups, sent an email alert Wednesday suggesting that activists tell lawmakers: “If news reports are true, this is obstruction of justice, and Congress must impeach.”

It is to laugh.

Let's see - where do I remember "MoveOn.org" from, and how did it get started?

Gads, is this entertaining! 😀

39 posted on 05/19/2017 1:15:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (Americ)
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