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An Organic Farm Under Threat
https://vimeo.com/216920516 ^ | 11 May 2017

Posted on 05/13/2017 10:18:55 AM PDT by TimeofReason

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To: TimeofReason

What? There is no freedom here to avoid consuming neurotoxic herbicides? Insane.


21 posted on 05/13/2017 11:20:46 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Savage Rider

So this is environmentalism.

I was wondering if it’s an invasive species issue. “Canadian Thistle” isn’t native to Canada as the name would suggest, but Europe and Asia. It’s an invasive species, which tells you this is environmentalism.

The offender here in New York is Purple Loosestrife. The State Department of Transportation here has spent millions trying to eradicate it in the roadway right-of-way. There might be a roadside meadow 400 feet deep chuck full of purple loosestrife and the State will spend thousands eradicating it in JUST the first 10-20 feet of the road. It’s pure folly...but apparently the condo conservationist are desturbed if it’s close to the road or their Prius.


22 posted on 05/13/2017 11:33:49 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: TimeofReason

I wonder if this company and their consumer base will notice the parallels with the Hammond family and ranchers like them? Lots of libtards out there who were just fine with the government destroying those folks in order to steal their land.


23 posted on 05/13/2017 11:33:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: Fitzy_888

I’ve seen local pastures where the Canadian Thistle was withering up from being sprayed with herbicides. I noticed that the flower heads were producing seed anyway just like dead Dandelions do.


24 posted on 05/13/2017 11:36:59 AM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: ptsal

While trying to get to the interstate in Nitro WV I happened on a very large chemical plant with no signs except For Authorized Personnel Only in very official looking red letters. Since my GPS actually took me there, I was curious to get a very good look and did not venture towards the guard post. There was no clue on the plant nor what were certainly the offices

I learned later from a neighbor who retired here from Nitro that the plant was a Monsanto installation and they wanted anonymity


25 posted on 05/13/2017 11:44:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: Twinkie

Good for you guys. If only our commercial growers would use nature.

With an epidemic of neurodegenerative diseases late in life and neurologically impaired babies and kids, shouldnt we at least rethink some of the neurotoxins we find so “convenient?”

Science= scientific method studies have proven that neither our skin nor our bloodstream really prevents neurotoxins having a deleterious effect on our brains. We ignore it at our peril.


26 posted on 05/13/2017 11:47:13 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TimeofReason

A few thoughts:

1) Oregon weed laws:
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors569.html

2) Usually if you make an attempt to control the weeds they leave you alone. Mow them would be organic.

3) So this is just another way to be special and a victim.


27 posted on 05/13/2017 11:48:35 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Those Oregon weed laws aren’t very reassuring.


28 posted on 05/13/2017 11:59:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: TimeofReason

Further thoughts:

1) Absolutely no factual information given in posted article. There is some more here but only one sided: https://hl.azurestandard.com/healthy-living/info/azure-farm-moro/

2) The appeal is purely emotional.

3) There are real good reasons for weed laws. There are also poor reasons for weed laws. But weed laws are state and local driven.

4) Google weed laws and you will see how society has changed.

6) It takes a lot of prior events to get to this point in the situation and we are not told them.


29 posted on 05/13/2017 12:04:01 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Most likely the issue is noxious weeds that the local government is trying to control. Pull them, or someone is spraying them.


30 posted on 05/13/2017 12:08:26 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Yaelle

No freedom to get you neighbors weed seeds blown in on the wind either. Pull, or spray. It is a personal choice.


31 posted on 05/13/2017 12:11:27 PM PDT by zek157
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To: TimeofReason

The farm should check the county barns and offices for weeds. They should also demand each county employee spray their yards. Besides, a weed can be whatever plant you don’t want to be in a certain spot. Grass is great in the yard but if it wanders into the garden, it’s a weed. A rare African violet is a weed if it pops up in the middle of your front yard. Who is the county to decide what the farm considers preferred plants vs. a weed?

And what about Roundup being dangerous? There was a recent hubbub to not use Roundup. That’s another thing the farm could bring up. Hey, they should make every farmer and rancher and homeowner spray for weeds. Never mind the livestock eats those weeds for food.

A few years ago in Texas, they send a raid out to an organic farm. The reason was totally trumped up. Don’t exactly remember the original reason, maybe claiming they were growing marijuana, but the reasons kept changing when they found no mj. The next reason was about the junk on the farm. Well, the junk was things like buckets to grow plants and pallets that were used to frame the beds and whatnot. Then something about the kids, well, heck, I go barefoot so guess I should be taken away from home.


32 posted on 05/13/2017 12:15:28 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

Are they going to force the Feds to spray all of the BLM and Nat. Forest land in Sherman county too? I thought not.


33 posted on 05/13/2017 12:19:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: TigersEye

Those Oregon weed laws aren’t very reassuring.


so what in particular is an issue for you? or you just don’t like them?

Controlling weeds is adventitious to everyone. Most real farmers want to control weeds. These are state and local laws.

The system is working as designed. If the laws get changed, fine. If they get enforced, fine. But it is a state/local issue.

No where is there an indication the azure farms even attempted to comply with laws. Not part of their defense.

Their only response is getting people to send emails to the county. Is that how we want our law enforcement done?


34 posted on 05/13/2017 12:21:13 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: TimeofReason

Strange times. I have seen this exact type of post on Democratic Underground. Horshoe theory of political leanings strikes again.


35 posted on 05/13/2017 12:21:28 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: BigEdLB
Pull the damn weeds.

On 2000 acres?

In my 900 sq ft garden, I could spend all day, every day, pulling weeds by the armload and never see the end of them. Make that my old garden. I couldn't keep up with the weeds - arm load after arm load filling the garbage bin. They won. I lost.

36 posted on 05/13/2017 12:22:35 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: PeterPrinciple
Most real farmers ...

That tells me all I need to know about your agenda. This company is the third largest producer of organic produce in the country.

37 posted on 05/13/2017 12:23:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: VanShuyten

a method that really reduced the amount of expensive herbicide needed and the total wages of the high school kids they hired.


That is a dilemma, more hard earned dollars or fewer easy dollars. which would I chose?


38 posted on 05/13/2017 12:25:33 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: bgill

If you decide to start your garden again don’t toss the weeds compost them. It kills the seed and makes rich compost. Straw mulch goes a long way towards preventing weeds from sprouting in the garden and conserves a lot of water too.


39 posted on 05/13/2017 12:25:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: Fitzy_888

How ‘bout we donate a heap o’ Southern Kudzu to NY and Oregon. It will totally smother all their noxious weeds - ORGANICALLY and Biodegradably!

Plus, its GREEN, really green (at least in the summer..)


40 posted on 05/13/2017 12:26:16 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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