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It is a sad case all around. Jordan Edwards is dead and Roy Oliver may be going to prison.

However, it may help to restore faith that the police are not above the law.

In the case of Alton Sterling, the convicted felon had a gun, and was resisting arrest. In this Baton Rouge shooting around the 4th of July 2016, the police probably acted correctly. The fact that the Justice Department refused to indict the police officers speaks volumes of that case.

Here in Louisiana, we have HORRIBLE media that distorts things. I just hope folks like Obama will keep their mouth shut about shootings that are justified by the police.

In the case of the Balch Springs shooting, the police officer was fired and now is facing criminal charges.

In my opinion, the system is working.

Even in the case of the South Carolina officer who wrongly pumped 8 shots into a person fleeing from him, the officer in South Carolina is facing 20 years in jail.

1 posted on 05/05/2017 7:30:15 PM PDT by topher
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Roy Oliver is a US Army veteran who served two tours in Iraq.

There might be something from his combat service that may be affecting him. He will not be on the streets as a police officer, and maybe he needs some kind of help that the Obama Administration VA system failed to give him.

Maybe he can get help under the Trump Administration VA system if that is indeed the case.

However, there are still the criminal charges against him.


2 posted on 05/05/2017 7:33:22 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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8,000 gun deaths a day (exaggerating) in Chicago, but all Juan Williams wanted to talk about tonight was this shooting.


3 posted on 05/05/2017 7:33:47 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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People want to play up the ‘all or nothing’ side of an issue when truth is in the middle. Are all cops bad or most of them are like that like the left and social justice crowd like to promulgate? Of course not but that doesn’t mean that all cops are clean or don’t do wrong.


4 posted on 05/05/2017 7:37:11 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (D)
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Endanger a Peace Officer in your idiocy or rampant criminality, you may die. Get over it. Thanks for not spreading your ignorant genes.


5 posted on 05/05/2017 7:42:48 PM PDT by soycd
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Murder seems like an over charge. I doubt this officer intended to kill the young man. Negligent homicide maybe.


6 posted on 05/05/2017 7:46:11 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Agreed. The system is not perfect but by and large it works well. The vast majority of cops are good honest people, doing an often thankless and dangerous job. Sadly a few are not. They need to be identified and weeded out. And if they abuse their position they need to be held to account.


7 posted on 05/05/2017 7:47:15 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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Love cameras...


8 posted on 05/05/2017 7:52:11 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I think that police departments that do not adopt clear policies against shooting cars absent the use of a weapon other than the car itself (and absent a terrorist ramming scenario) are probably trying to protect their officers but are actually doing a disservice to them.


10 posted on 05/05/2017 7:56:54 PM PDT by Stingray51
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Why is it when cops murder someone they never have a middle name like other murderers?


11 posted on 05/05/2017 8:21:59 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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One thing I would like to see changed is that it be a Federal Crime to lie about a shooting that a Police Officer is involved in.

The Police lose credibility when a policeman lies about a shooting. Apparently, the Police Chief was initially lied to about this shooting, and found out from the video the truth.

By making the WRITTEN STATEMENTS liable to criminal charges for a police officer will help POLICE DEPARTMENTS to GAIN CREDIBILITY.

16 posted on 05/05/2017 8:57:22 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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It is sad. I’m confident he didn’t walk out his door that day gunning to shoot someone. When I first read about it I thought, ‘negligent discharge’. No winners here.


19 posted on 05/05/2017 11:09:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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yes, when will the police (and everybody else for that matter) get it straight that you do NOT have to do anything immediately. The police will get you if they want you, on a traffic stop or a warrant. No need to shoot anyone fleeing. Shooting is to protect yourself or others.


25 posted on 05/06/2017 4:17:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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What makes me sick about this is the NATIONAL NAACP president came to town to call for protests. The family of the boy has requested that there be no protests until AFTER they bury their son. The protests will probably happen in Dallas, cause I have no idea where downtown Balch Springs is.

They want justice - the officer has been fired, charges have been filed and the officer has turned himself in. It will take time to have a trial - they want justice NOW. What is the point of a protest and federal investigation when all that can be done HAS been done.

I pray no one gets hurt tonight - I’m sure the protests will begin as soon as the funeral is over.


27 posted on 05/06/2017 5:00:06 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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Remember that you will never hear about a shooting or killing from the left unless there is power and/or money to be gained. Hence you never hear them talk or worry over black on black or black on anything killings. You never hear any talk from them over white on white killings. Only when there is something to gain for them (White cop vs black person) will there be action.


28 posted on 05/06/2017 5:08:38 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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I have the utmost respect for LEO’s - however from what can be gathered from the news reports, this was a “bad shoot”.

The officer was called to a party that had been crashed by rowdy teenagers - and the officer knew he was dealing with teenagers.
Regardless of his stress level, he should have known that in those circumstances that his department’s Use of Force directives would have prohibited firing into a fleeing car under those circumstances - common sense should have told him that firing into that car was a bad idea - especially since he was aware that it was filled with teenagers.

I’ve read reports from various sources that the officer was an Iraq Vet (Army) and may have been suffering from PTSD which while it may explain his actions, it will not excuse them.

Now as to the DA charging him with murder, I suspect that is intentional overcharging with the goal of quieting the outraged public while guaranteeing that the officer doesn’t get convicted since the facts that are known do not support a premeditated murder charge.


31 posted on 05/06/2017 7:47:25 AM PDT by jhastey
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