Posted on 05/03/2017 10:37:54 PM PDT by vannrox
With all the posturing between the Trump people promoting the latest budget agreement as a “win”, and the Fake News, and their Democrat minions saying that the budget was in the benefit of Democrats. I still feel betrayed. I do. This is not what was promised. After listening to El Rushbo, perhaps I have misread what is actually going on here. So as an exercise in sanity, I decided to compare the promises of both Trump and Clinton with the latest budget agreement. Here are my results. I think it goes a long way to describe just who benefits from the latest budget agreement. TRUMP -The Passed Budget- HILLARY CLINTON Build a wall on the Mexico border. No wall at all, but will increase funding for Immigration staff No wall at all, but will increase funding for Immigration staff Defund Sanctuary Cities Fully fund Sanctuary Cities Fully fund Sanctuary Cities Stop H1-B VISA abuse Expand the number of H1-B VISAS Expand the number of H1-B VISAS Expand our military Expand our military Expand our military Get rid of ObamaCARE Expand ObamaCARE Expand ObamaCARE Stop outreach effort funding Continue to give moneys to African nations for outreach Continue to give moneys to African nations for outreach Reduce UN funding Increase UN funding Increase UN funding Stop flood of Refugees Increase number of refugees Increase number of refugees Stop Climate Change studies Increase funding to study climate change Increase funding to study climate change Do not bail out Puerto Rico Bail out Puerto Rico Bail out Puerto Rico Invest in American industries Increase taxes on American Industries Increase taxes on American Industries Do not fund CA High-speed rail Fund CA High-speed Rail Fund CA High-speed Rail Stop funding BLM Outreach to BLM Outreach to BLM Stop Islamic expansion in our schools Fund Islamic education initiatives Fund Islamic education initiatives Increase infrastructure investment Divert money from infrastructure investment to educational unions Divert money from infrastructure investment to educational unions I am still with Trump, but I am not going to call this budget deal something it is not. This budget deal is an expansion of the Obama policies, and the presence of it indicates just what would have happened if Hillary Clinton came to office. It is no wonder the progressive socialists are all happy. This is a Hillary Clinton budget. It is NOT a Donald Trump budget. Not what he promised us anyways…A comparison between the latest budget and the proposed budgets of Clinton and Trump
You know, the big praises that are being heaped on this budget is that the military is being expanded. So what? It was going to expand under Hillary Clinton anyways. Why make this a big deal?
Let’s get this done. It’s not everything but it’s a running start:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/2018_blueprint.pdf
Thank you for presenting me with some hope.
I think Trump is wanting to focus on the bill for Obamacare at this. He could not take him the two fights at the same time.
Blueplum: I hope you will repeat this posting on, say, September 1.
GOP response after a nuclear attack: “Next time!”
I think you nailed it.
Thank you blueplum ... so many are over reacting and turning on the President and this is not even President’s Trump own budget yet - I think Rush has gone back to never Trumper land where he was during the campaign and not listenable for a while until he returns to his senses again.
The real wall will be built - improving the bollard wall is the planning act for the real one.
Rush and Savage and too many others turned coat way too soon.
Thanks for your post!!
I think so, but he can’t make a big deal out of it. Nixon did that with a “sequester” and either Congress or the courts forced rekease. But if Dept. Heads are just really, really slow to spend . . .
But he can do so really, really slow. Dens did that I think w military & wall money.
Make them pass a tequired spending law for every damn line item.
Aren’t there still some parameters available. Like PP only gets funds for non-abortion services, etc.
Q. Just curious. Can Trump decline to spend on a budget item?
A. - before 1974, Presidents often opted to not spend money that was budgeted by Congress. Many times, the President made the decision based on trying to hold the line on over spending, etc.
However - this upset Congress, because they felt that it took away THEIR power to give pork and lard to friends. Therefore - they passed the 1974 Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act. One aspect of that crappy bill was that the President could line out items he wanted to NOT spend money on....and if Congress voted in the affirmative to support those spending holds, within 30 days...then the spending holds would be permitted. If Congress did nothing....the spending holds were cancelled and the money HAD TO BE SPENT.
Of course - Congress would never affirm the spending holds - so after 1974 - Congress could pass big bloated budgets (say a Democrat Congress)...and a Republican President could not rein in spending through impoundments (which was routinely done prior to 1974.)
So - the short answer is - NO...Trump can’t decline to spend...thanks to a law passed in 1974 by Democrats. (A “Watergate-scandal” weakened Nixon signed the law less than 1 month before his resignation in Aug. 1974.)
you’re very welcome my FRiend. We’re all here to learn from each other :)
This sure sounds weird, like it encroaches on Constitutional prerogatives and distorts the process.
Tricky Dick tricked us too....
LOL let’s see if you make it that far first. :)
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