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Someone wanna tell me again why Trump should bother with trying to veto this Uni-Party stab in the back?

Maybe in September we conservatives can get what we want. Maybe.

But not today.

1 posted on 05/02/2017 10:02:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Someone wanna tell me again why Trump should bother with trying to veto this Uni-Party stab in the back?

Because it funds the slaughter of between 35,000 an 70,000 little human babies trapped in the womb.

That's why.

2 posted on 05/02/2017 10:04:34 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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The Founding Fathers set it up this way," said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)

I really did not think someone could be that ignorant and be elected to the Senate. I stand corrected.

3 posted on 05/02/2017 10:04:38 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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Not in September either.

Maybe after some serious Cantorizing in 2018.
It’s our last hope.


4 posted on 05/02/2017 10:04:40 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Pres. Trump stands up to the MSM to defend himself.

How about 1 MINUTE for the American People, Mr. President?

Speak up NOW, or watch your base leave you.


6 posted on 05/02/2017 10:06:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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What a frickin moron. The notion of ‘cloture’ didn’t enter the Senate until 1917.


8 posted on 05/02/2017 10:07:34 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I call Obama "osama" because he damaged us far more than Osama bin Ladin ever did.)
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Getting rid of the filibuster would not do any good when there are so many Democrats in R jerseys in the Senate.

Alexander, Corker, Flake, Graham, Hatch, Heller, Hoeven, Murkowsky and Rubio all voted for the Gang of Amnesty bill.

More would have if their votes were needed.

Burr, Tillis, Portman, McConnell, Thune, Cornyn, Cochran, Isackson,Blunt, Johnson, Gardner, Toomey, Capito, Fischer, Collins, Wicker are all Cheap Labor Express Republicans.

Unless we do some serious Cantorizing of weasels, we better start liking crap sandwiches.


9 posted on 05/02/2017 10:08:47 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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I think the thing is, he doesn’t need the money now, He has the money to get all the bids lined up etc, etc. from the repair and maintenance funds the DHS already has. He’s gonna get his money for the wall tho.


10 posted on 05/02/2017 10:09:15 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I call Obama "osama" because he damaged us far more than Osama bin Ladin ever did.)
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This new Senator Kennedy is quite wrong on this: filibusters were not set up by the founding fathers but by politicians in 1917.


11 posted on 05/02/2017 10:09:42 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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Someone wanna tell me again why Trump should bother with trying to veto this Uni-Party stab in the back?

Maybe to show the base he actually stands for what he promised.

Maybe in September we conservatives can get what we want. Maybe.

Maybe we end up as Charlie Brown again.

But not today.

"I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today."

For the record, the senate GOP leadership is a bunch of worthless bastards. I hope Trump does fight in September.

12 posted on 05/02/2017 10:11:08 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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Not today, and not September of this or any other year, so long as the filibuster rule is not abandoned altogether.

The Senate ceased to have a justification of any kind for a filibuster with the ratification of Seventeenth Amendment, which provided for the popular election of Senators. Senators USED to be appointed by the state legislatures.


14 posted on 05/02/2017 10:12:14 AM PDT by alloysteel (Why does anyone vote Republican, anyway? The Democrats STILL impose their will.)
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The GOP better soon wake the hell up...

President Trump needs to begin kicking butts...NOW NOT IN SEPTEMBER...


17 posted on 05/02/2017 10:14:53 AM PDT by haircutter
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"I'm not going to support a change in rules. The Founding Fathers set it up this way," said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)

Dumber than a sack of hammers

19 posted on 05/02/2017 10:17:20 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Maybe this is a way to give the Democrats a victory and in return they do not stand in the way of healthcare repeal and replace. If healthcare goes down, the democrats will be blamed. It’s their baby. Unless they appease their base with this win and pretend to put on a show of resistance to the new healthcare plan. It is then a win for both Trump (passing a healthcare bill) and Democrats (giving them something to beat him over the head with til the next election)! I find it hard to believe that both things happening the same week is merely coincidence. Like a lot of you, am just trying to make sense of this and this makes sense to me.


23 posted on 05/02/2017 10:24:50 AM PDT by marstegreg
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My idiot senator. The filibuster is not in the Constitution. It is a Senate rule, and the Constitution does allow Senate rules. The filibuster is designed to stop debate, not pursue it.


25 posted on 05/02/2017 10:28:28 AM PDT by odawg
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3 people wrote this?

Must take a village to cobble together a quorum of sufficient but, collective IQ’s to operate a keyboard...


28 posted on 05/02/2017 10:40:36 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Anybody who is silly enough to actually believe that we can expect ANYTHING from this government, or this administration, is truly delusional. I gave up a long, long time ago. I have absolutely no hope or faith in Trump or anyone in DC. I sincerely hope I am proven wrong, but it has become eminently obvious that absolutely no one in Washington can be trusted!


35 posted on 05/02/2017 11:01:28 AM PDT by GeneralLee62 (All bums.)
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From Wikipedia:

The concept of the filibuster emerged in the Senate in the 1850s.

"I'm not going to support a change in rules. The Founding Fathers set it up this way," said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), who's been in Washington about three weeks longer than Trump. "It's worked for centuries. It can still work. We don't have a rule problem, we've got a people problem."

This man is a U.S. Senator? What an embarassment. We don't need our own Hank Johnson.
41 posted on 05/02/2017 11:17:27 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; All

THEY ARE LYING BASTARDS, The Filibuster DID NOT EXIST as a result of the Founding Fathers.

First, historical lore says that the filibuster was part of the original design of the Senate. Not true. When we scour early Senate history, we discover that the filibuster was created by mistake.

https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/the-history-of-the-filibuster/


47 posted on 05/02/2017 12:31:13 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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I’d veto it. What’s he got to lose?

In fact, he can say he’s going to use the shutdown to identify the non-essential elements of government and target that as savings.

There is just no way, no way, to defend the idea that with all three branches, liberal priorities still take priority.

I’d get those to idiots (Ryan and Gobbler) into the Oval and I’d ream them and say this dies in Congress, or I veto it. You lay that stinking coil on my desk and I’ll use it to reduce government in a way that you will not like. Your families will lose business, your friends will lose business, and I will create the monster reporters of tomorrow when I leak what they need to know to roll you both up.


49 posted on 05/02/2017 12:50:12 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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The filibuster sham gives the Republicans an excuse to appear to vote for rational measures that they and the other Democrats don’t want, an excuse to appear to support a Trump measure while ensuring it is killed.


50 posted on 05/02/2017 1:34:08 PM PDT by arthurus
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