Posted on 04/30/2017 7:02:32 PM PDT by Coleus
Oh yeah.....probably right!
Interestingly, the beginning of it all, the concept of leibens unswertesleibens (life not worthy of life) was not a Nazi-era law, but an earlier Progressive stage--the Weimar Republic. The Nazis (who were Progressives also) were just using what was lying around.
My wife cared for her wheelchair bound dad for 25 years, and ALZ mom for 6 years. They both died on the farm here.
I will say that spouses may need a man cave to survive odd dramas. My dad went quick, at age 57, with congestive heart failure from diabetes. I kid my wife that I want to go quick..
We’re near Salem, and will surely add our voice to this..
The horrors contemplated and proposed in Oregon are past belief and redemption.
Hospice DOES NOT starve or dehydrate people! Insinuating that we do is both ignorant and insulting!
WE alleviate uncomfortable symptoms. Period. God decides when our patients are called home.
Dementia runs in my family. I love Alaska, snow, and snowdogs (not brown bears), and when I read “Snow Walker” I thought that that is how I should go. Thing is, I won’t be able to make that decision for myself. I wonder how the rates of dementia and Alzheimer’s has increased due to technology and becoming office chair potatoes.
HERE YA GO, LOONEY CHRISTIANS!
” and other mental illnesses. “
——End stage dementia patients——
Interesting concept. What is “end stage”
I have recently heard that there is a sort of “mean dementia” where the patient goes haywire and lashes out. I have a friend that has uncontrollable outbursts against everybody and is an extended care facility. My mom was in a similar state but not so bad. Her meanness took the form of writing long very nasty letters or making mean comments.
Towards the end, she had swallowing problems that may have contributed to her death.
Oh, by the way, I read the Bible slowly (taking notes) cover to cover and I am just starting Judges. Having finished Joshua I am particularly vigilant for national consequences of rebellion (nice way of saying promised threats) and I have been wondering how long it will be before the Great Tribulation. Before abortion becoming worldwide I couldn’t imagine why God would be so angry.
Well, this morning a note dropped out of my Bible. Genesis 15:16 [Abraham was told] “Then in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete.” God told Abraham about his descendants going to another nation and being enslaved for 400 years then returning because the Amorites who lived in the Promised Land weren’t as bad as they were going to be and being wiped out wasn’t going to happen until they practiced child sacrifice.
So, we have about 6 nations in the world that outlaw pre-born genocide. Is God waiting for all nations to legalize child sacrifice? Is God waiting for all nations to become equally abominable? Last year was Israel’s 40th year.
I think we should sue these people for what they are doing in provoking God to wrath.
Two things are inevitable, death and taxes.
So naturally, the state encourages both.
You are absolutely right. And medical and care providers discuss this with the families of patients who are fortunate enough to have them. What concerns me are the dementia patients who have no one to look out for them and raise holy Hell if need be. Seems to me this legislation is trying to fix something that isn’t broken. Which makes one wonder why.
LJ, when a dementia patient is unable to swallow, there are no good choices. And aspiration pneumonia is not a pleasant way to go. The real question is who is best equipped to decide for the patient who has no one to make the hard choices. The legislation does not address this satisfactorily. Not to my mind.
If you did this to an animal you'd be arrested!
this truly dangerous to Oregon’s leaders considering most liberals suffer from dementia. Are they going to lock themselves and starve
Disgraced former Governor Kitzhaber placed a moratorium on executions...against the will of the voters..and useless Kate Brown continues the policy. Death row inmates probably eat better than many of Oregon’s citizens.
I am not insinuating anything. I am stating that patients are dehydrated. In fact, I was told by the hospice nurse that it’s a pleasant way to go.
To deny that patients are being dehydrated is avoiding the truth.
Do some googling. Your’ll find in a couple of minutes health professionals pushing dehydration, e.g., “”The process of starving to death seems very barbaric but in actuality is very peaceful,” said Dr. Fred Mirarchi, assistant clinical professor of emergency medicine at Drexel University College of Medicine in Philadelphia.
You and your wife know better than most how much stress and sacrifice is involved in care giving. And you know the rewards as well I’m sure. It’s harder than any job and it’s more than a duty it’s family.
Good luck fighting this evil bill.
I live in Arkansas and just witnessed all this outpouring against the death penalty. One of the things of concern was if these animals being executed would suffer pain as they were dying.
Having just gone through three weeks of Hospice with my Father last December I could only think was were are you people about the suffering of patients in Hospice?
I have have had a lot of reflective thought on this and I just look at Hospice as either, Assisted Suicide, or even more so, Legalized Assisted Murder.
I would oppose vehemently a Bill as this in Oregon. It is wrong and pretty much amounts to Murder any way you cut it.
I am tired of hearing the phrase death with dignity, I don’t think it exists.
Sorry I beg to disagree. Been through it and I found it a horrible experience. It’s barbaric, I would rather my Father have swallowed a Cup of Hemlock than watch what I did.
ES dementia is when a patient can no longer self ambulate (walk without assistance or self-propel a wheelchair) and can no longer have meaningful speech (cannot express their needs).
There are numerous types of dementia from the basic “senile dementia” which is the common forgetfulness/eccentricity of the very elderly all the way up to ES Alzheimer’s dementia.
Most dementia pts can/do exhibit some irritability/aggression, but Lewey Body dementia is the epitome of this. Very difficult to control.
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