Attention-seeking half-brother of Obama posts image of ex-president's 'Kenyan birth certificate'

Daily Mail ^ | 10 March 2017 | Ariel Zilber

[Seizethecarp]

Ping to the Daily Mail picking up Malik’s post of Barry’s Kenyan Coast Province BC...and going overboard denouncing Malik and the BC and affirming the Whitehouse forgery as supposedly genuine!

No mention by the Daily Mail of Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation and claim of forensic proof of forgery supported by a top European lab!

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Ralph Nader wasn’t a NBC, either.

How so? If his parents had become citizens before he was born, nobody would seriously contest his natural born citizenship, would they? Does anybody know when they were naturalized? FWIW: Nader's 2004 running mate Peter Camejo didn't pass the birther's criterion for NBC status.

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Look at the stamp in the upper left part of the document.

It says "Helton Maganga Chief Administrator."

Maganga was the Chief Administrator of the hospital in Mombasa in 2009, not in 1961.

[Seizethecarp]

It looks to me like someone was looking for a footprint image to put into clip art and cribbed the one in the Kenyan BC!

This is the low-resolution image that was cribbed to clip art, not the other way around, IMO. There are high-resolution images of this BC with a footprint image that was NOT cribbed, so the appearance of a low resolution image in clip art would not prove the Coast Province BC to be a forgery.

[Brown Deer]

Yes, it was in 2009 that Lucas Smith obtained the document from Kenya.

[GBA]

It's hard to say for sure what obama is.

I wonder if he was part of some grand plan or merely allowed as a test, like a reality check to determine how far into the fog we've fallen.

This 1984 interview between interviewer Edward Griffin and ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov perhaps best lays out the foundation to explain our current dilemma.

A quote:

ED GRIFFIN:

So basically America is Stuck, with demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy and patriotism.

YURI BEZMENOV:

The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems.

You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov].

You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.

To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

The interview was in 1984 and by then the ideological subversion here was already fairly far along.

It says the first stage is "demoralization", that it "takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation."

Here we are 33 years later in the post-Soviet world, after two terms of Clinton, two terms of Bush and two terms of obama, arguing about natural born citizenship of obama and Ted Cruz!

I think the demoralization stage is well-named and that we should have heeded the Fatima warnings. Oh well...

Jesus, we're ready for you now.

[danamco]

Unfortunately Inspector (Lucas) Smith was SHOUTED down here on F.R. BIG time and badly elsewhere, hello !!!

[Brown Deer]

and badly elsewhere, hello !!!

you must be referring to this guy:

The Vogt Affidavit Names Suspected Birth Certificate Forger

[danamco]

Seen that face before, but I don’t really IIRC ???

[WildHighlander57]

Seizethecarp wrote:

“It looks to me like someone was looking for a footprint image to put into clip art and cribbed the one in the Kenyan BC!

This is the low-resolution image that was cribbed to clip art, not the other way around, IMO. There are high-resolution images of this BC with a footprint image that was NOT cribbed, so the appearance of a low resolution image in clip art would not prove the Coast Province BC to be a forgery.”

I was wondering about that, when I went to the clipart site..

[thinden]

Good post boomer

[LucyT]

Check out link at # 68 which includes the following,

Major portions of the remainder of Vogt’s research center on the Financial Statements of former and now deceased Hawaii Director of Public health Loretta Fuddy. Fuddy died in a plane crash in December of 2013.

Vogt obtained a copy of Fuddy’s financial disclosure forms from 2011 and 2012. His analysis concludes that there was a reduction of her liabilities and debts to the tune of $78,000.00

“there is an income shortfall of no less than $50,000.00 between her disposable income of an estimated $28,000.00 before other living expenses and the $78,000.00 reduction of liabilities by the end of 2011.

"It looks like she was paid a bribe.”

Despite Vogt’s efforts, his evidence and his motion for a writ of certiorari and for leave to file an affidavit under seal was denied by the US Supreme Court April 21,2014.

Thanks, Brown Deer.

[Freedom56v2]

There is no proof to this day that McCain was born on a military base in the Canal Zone. That is his claim, but he still will not release his birth certificate.

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Thank you for posting this.

[Candor7]

Fuddy has been fudded!

[Electric Graffiti]

Is twitter making people stoopid?

I think so...How many times have people posted Malik’s twitter posting of Lucas Smith’s 2009 ebay BC? Like that lowlife stinkin muzzie has some insight on anything.

Malik is POS attention whore trying to make money off of his name, Obama. The POS factor runs in the family.

We need to deport everyone in the U.S. with the last name of Obama just to be sure.

[Brown Deer]

Is twitter making people stoopid?

I don't use twitter. Do yoo you?

[Brown Deer]

Barack Hussein Obama and Harrison J. Bounel

Snopes says: This claim stems from nothing more than the observation that a search of a personal information database back in 2011 showed that the name "Harrison J. Bounel" had been mistakenly cross-indexed with Barack Obama's home address and Social Security number. (This type of error is common in such databases and has since been corrected.) Aside from that temporary erroneous entry, there is no evidence whatsoever that Barack Obama ever used the name "Harrison J. Bounel" as an alias, or that Barack Obama's Social Security number was originally issued to someone by that name.

Just think of Snopes as a virtual sanitarium; read what they have to say and nothing else, and your fever will surely break.

But: there are a few problems with the Snopes “refutation” of Bounel-related conspiracy theories.

In regard to the Bounel/Obama link, we are clearly in the realm of fact, not conspiracy theory.

Notice that Snopes does not deny, but rather affirms, that the Bounel name was in fact linked to Obama’s name, SSN, and home address.

Snopes’ question, and ours, is why?

It is very easy to show that what the Snopes folks offer by way of explanation for the linkage is very, very weak indeed.

What follows debunks the Bounel/Obama debunkers, all while extending Obama (and his aliases) every benefit of the doubt. Should Bounel-related problems remain for Obama, our reasons for harboring suspicion with respect to his identity will be very much strengthened indeed.

First, let’s quickly deal with the notion that Obama, (like Bounel?), was (and may still be) using a Connecticut issued SSN.

Here is Snopes’ account: Why Barack Obama's Social Security card application might have included a Connecticut mailing address is something of a curiosity, as he had no known connection to that state at the time, but by itself that quirk is no indicator of fraud. The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived at the time he applied for his Social Security number in 1977 is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since '0' and '9' are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it's not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident's application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut).

You know what? Why bicker?

Let’s just give Obama the benefit of the doubt here. A mistake was made. Beyond question, there are, by now, probably thousands of people wandering around Hawaiian zip code 96814 who are possessed of Connecticut-routed SSN’s associated with Danbury’s 06814 zip code.

So just banish it from your mind, because there is more interesting ID related material to attend to.

But what about the “cross-indexing” of the name Bounel with Obama’s name, his home address, and his SSN -- all of which Snopes admits happened?

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Oddly enough, with respect to the Harrison J. Bounel name, it is Obama supporters who must grasp at straws and pretend to rest satisfied with explanations that invoke random error stacked upon random error.

Indeed, the above argument is sufficiently powerful that some of Obama’s supporters attempt, consciously or not, to avoid it by postulating a conspiracy theory which apparently holds that an anti-Obama individual may have placed the name “Bounel” alongside the Obama record!

It’s a notable coincidence that Bounel appeared in a record with Obama’s social-security number just one month after Orly Taitz published the President’s social-security number on the Internet (meaning that anyone could have learned of it, along with Obama’s name and public home address).

The fellow who wrote this calls himself, quite appropriately, Dr. Conspiracy.

His real name is Kevin Davidson, and he is not a doctor --but never mind.

I guess Davidson is either unaware of, or chooses to ignore, the many “notable” coincidences attending Obama’s background and identity (some of which are specified here).

Either that, or Davidson’s rule is: coincidences that can be construed in favor of Obama are actually conspiracies against Obama, while all coincidences that cast Obama’s identity in doubt are in fact idle conspiracy theories.

In any event, there is at least one enormous problem with Davidson’s conspiracy theory defense of Obama/Harrison J. Bounel: what search procedure did Davidson’s supposed random anti-Obama actor employ in order to unearth a name they could be sure absolutely nobody else was using?

[bgill]

Orly:

“1. Nagamine’s husband is a Dunham-Obama family attorney. He handles Obama’s sister’s divorce from her first husband. Nagamine is an insider who worked hard to cover up this forged ID and keep the American people defrauded with no original document on file.

2. Johanna Ah’Nee’s boss is also an insider. He is listed on a committee picking Superior Court of Hawaii judges to be nominated by the governor. Think about it, why some nobody-owner of a copy and graphics shop is picking judges?

3. Savannah Guthrie was rewarded by NBC with a multi-million dollar contract and a position of a morning anchor after she claimed that she saw and touched a raised seal on Obama’s ID, which was not there. Let’s hope that incoming AG Sessions investigates all of these people.”

http://www.newpatriotsblog.com/news/vindication-obamas-long-form-birth-certiifcate-is-a-proven-forgery/

[MMaschin]

Below is a link to the blog of the only certified document examiner, who has actually looked into the authenticity of the document the White House has presented. In it, he states -

As stated in my report to Mr. Zullo, the COLB that I examined has so many blatant oddities that it makes me wonder if this particular PDF may have been created in an effort to impeach President Obama. Surely the creator of the document (if it is in fact manufactured and not just a color scan) would have been sufficiently familiar with image editing programs so as to not leave such numerous, noticeable discrepancies in the final product, unless it was intended as an impeachment tool. Familiarity with basic scanning techniques and image editing procedures should have precluded such obvious “mistakes.”

And

In short, there are indications that the Obama Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House in April 2011 may be a manufactured document or perhaps even an outright forgery. But without examining the original document housed at the Hawaii Department of Health, there can be no absolute certainty.

http://www.reedwrite.com/index.php/2016/08/03/obama-birth-certificate/

[MMaschin]

Because 'Miss Juanita Holt', copied it from an image, and uploaded it.

Look at image. Notice the dark pixels around the image? They are also on BC image. They are what appear to be photocopy artifacts.

Are the two the same? Yes. But it appears MUCH more likely that the clipart was taken from the BC, and not the other way around. I'm going to take a look at wayback and see when the clipart was added.