Posted on 04/21/2017 6:17:40 PM PDT by blam
America has always had its divisions, and Americans have never really been a monolith. Weve always been a nation of many nations. The culture of New England is different from the culture of the Deep South, which is different from the cultures in the West Coast or the Midwest. People living in the cities have different beliefs than people who live in the countryside. Within those areas, there are ethnic, linguistic, and religious enclaves. Its always kind of been like that (probably to a lesser degree in the past), and somehow weve been able to find enough common ground to keep this country together for more than a century.
However, something has changed. You can feel it in the air. Our nation has clearly never been this divided since the Civil War. A lot of people noticed it after the last election, but the truth is that these divisions have been deepening for decades, and theyre just now reaching a very noticeable breaking point. Thats obvious enough when you look at how the left and the right have been going at each other. It used to be a war of words, but its turning into something very dark.
Consider what happened last week in Berkeley after Trump supporters and counter protesters clashed for the third time. 21 people were arrested and 11 were injured (that we know of), six of who had to be taken to the hospital. At least one person was stabbed. The police confiscated confiscated knives, stun guns, and poles. One Trump supporter admitted to being surrounded, pepper sprayed, and beaten with sticks by a mob of protesters.
But wait, thats not the dark part. After these groups clashed, the leftist protesters took to Reddit and admitted that they lost this particular battle ...
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I hope none are members of the biker gangs.
Gangs have high sense of code of conduct and allegiance. If channeled right it is a good thing. This allegiance holds a lot of things in check right now.
Many are patriots. But, they are also other things.
The video of him striking four other people on the head with a bike clock appeared to be the 15th, the same day that of sort of famous attack.
I heard yesterday he had been arrested, but not from a cop.
ROTFLMAO!
Murder? Prostitution? Child pornography?
You are the one that constantly conflates all bikers with gangsters.
Thank you.
If 51% vote to secede then bye bye.
“You are the one that constantly conflates all bikers with gangsters.”
I have never done that. In fact I constantly draw a distinction between them. Apparently you are one of those that wish to draw no distinction between them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3546251/posts?page=33#33
Jo six chip did; I hadn’t read doenthread to the post yet...
“2) If you need to stop, ride up to the front of the pack and pull over.”
Are you advising me to ride up to the front of a biker gang and pull over?
You are joking, right?
A recent poll in California showed that 30% supported the idea of secession.
You mentioned that “if 51% vote to secede then bye bye.”
What happens when all or a portion of the 49% on the other side contest the vote with firearms? A war within the borders of the state in question.
The divisions are not inherent. They are media driven propaganda.
IF the entire state secedes then they are a separate country. They can handle any internal strife anyway they want to. My guess there wouldn’t be any. Not my problem.
I didn’t say they had YOUR code of conduct and allegiance. I said that have one and it is strong. They understand it and implement it much better that we do.
I have had long discussions with a former gang member from CA. Do you know what keeps MS-13 in check and not running more wild than it is? It is our native gangs. This is THEIR territory and they resent the outsiders. A form of patriotism if you will.
But according to my friend, the local gangs are politically correct to go after so the blacks and outside gangs take over.
The world is complex. Do NOT ever think it is simple.
You are right on. They want a war because the outcome of a war would be to severely weaken America economically and militarily and in the resulting chaos they would get the opportunity to negate our constitutional government once and for all.
Unfortunately the leftists hold most of the cards when it comes to starting a civil war. The media controls the narrative. Soros has created a well funded network of activists who are stirring up militant sentiment. Our colleges and universities are ruthlessly indoctrinating our best and brightest with anti-American ideas. I could go on, but the fact is people don’t know what to believe about what is going on and some are becoming convinced that striking out violently is the right thing to do.
We are already in a civil war... sides are being defined as we skirmish
“If the entire state secedes then they are a separate country.”
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What happens when the central government....i.e., the federal government....won’t let them have their independence?
The last time a group of states tried that, in the early 1860’s, it did not turn out well for them.
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Doesn't get much simpler than this one, does it.
I think we learned form the last time that starting a war over the secession of a state(s) is a really stupid idea. The USSR dissolves with very little bloodshed at all.
The left has managed to push America up against the stops. The friction just keeps building. Something has to give.
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