Posted on 04/09/2017 7:32:41 PM PDT by BAW
New York would be the first state to make tuition at public colleges and universities free for middle-class students under a state budget set for passage in Albany.
The plan crafted by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo would apply to any New York student whose family has an annual income of $125,000 or less. To qualify the student would have to meet certain class load and grade point average restrictions, and room and board would not be covered.
Cuomo said Sunday that the tuition plan, which his office has estimated to cost $163 million, is a national first.
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When it has no cost it has no value.
Expect taxes to go up as everyone flees to southern climes.
Yes and they have made Virginia and now sometimes North Carolina blue and purple states. They are working on Georgia. New York probably will end up red in a few decades after all the liberals leave for southern states. Crazy.
Is there an age limit? If not I’ll go get a degree in Fisheries Management, then an associate’s degree in medical dosimetry. After that we’ll see what’s next.
Exactly.
actually, the State University of NY system is one of the best in the nation, if not the best....
It’s only “free” for those that do not have to work to pay for it.
Like the girls on the corner used to say, “it ain’t never free, baby!”
soon, a public college education in the state of NY will be worth what it costs; nothing.
State-Operated Campuses Baccalaureate Degree ProgramsState-operated campuses include University Centers, University Colleges and Technology Colleges. |
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New York State Residents |
Out-of-State Residents 2 |
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Living on Campus |
Commuter |
Living on Campus |
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Direct Costs 5 |
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Tuition |
$6,470 |
$6,470 |
$16,320 3 |
Student Fees 1 |
$1,640 |
$1,640 |
$1,640 |
Room and Board |
$12,590 |
$3,860 |
$12,590 |
TOTAL DIRECT COSTS |
$20,700 |
$11,970 |
$30,550 |
Indirect Costs 6 |
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Books and Supplies |
$1,340 |
$1,340 |
$1,340 |
Personal Expenses |
$1,560 |
$1,590 |
$1,560 |
Transportation |
$1,080 |
$1,890 |
$1,180 |
TOTAL INDIRECT COST |
$3,980 |
$4,820 |
$4,080 |
> When it has no cost it has no value. <
Excellent point.
this means one thing, and only one thing; cuomo is running in 2020.
I put that cost of $163 mil a year through my wissionater!
Wizz, wizz, wizz.
At a cost of $7,000 per year, $163 mil would support 23,200 students in the first year. Then, if they stayed in school for the four years to graduate, only a bit over 5,400 could be entered in this program a year to chew through $163m annually.
I think that there over 5400 kids of parents earning less than $125k that would like free education!
Nice job Coumo, you A-Hole!
P. J. O'Rourke
“To qualify the student would have to meet certain class load and grade point average restrictions, and room and board would not be covered.”
These requirements will in short order be considered racist and they will all be done away with - especially the grade point average.
As a result the budget will balloon into billions. Also since money is no object, tuitions will skyrocket too.
This will be an interesting experiment. $163 is the benchmark projected cost. Let’s see how this works out in 5 years . . .
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It will end up in the billions and the real plan is to subsidize all the crazy liberals who dominate the population of those who pick up a paycheck at colleges.
With all the information available on the Internet, there’s no reason to be spending a fortune on so many brick and mortar schools.
There’s no way the state of NY would pay for college unless gender studies, homo/lesbo acceptance, white privilege awareness and global warming 101 were required courses to graduate.
“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” he said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.”
Wrong Wrong Wrong. What is needed is a skill the public is willing to pay you for.
Rocket Scientists, yes
Engineers, yes
Pilots, yes
Plumbers, yes (A good one earns more than a rocket scientist)
Electricians, yes
doctors, yes
nurses, yes
pharmacists, yes
roughneck on a drilling rig, yes. Hard dangerous, pays well
someone who can repair my lawnmower, hell yes they are rare
someone that can clear land and trees, last guy had a masters of science but decided to get rich instead. He was making 500 dollars a day 15 years ago. In today’s money that is about 800 dollars. His prior job was as a school principal but he got fed up with the system. He was not a liberal.
Degrees are good, I have a few. My employers paid me for my skills. You do not need a degree to achieve great success, you need a skill people are willing to pay for.
Circa 1966,the dumbest dude on the High School football team barely graduated from High School. However he was ambitious and a hard working man. He went into small construction business in his local area. He has more wealth today than the two pharmacists, two doctors, one dentist and one lawyer that were on the football team. Degrees are nice, you do not need one if you have a skill to offer.
“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” he said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.”
Wrong Wrong Wrong. What is needed is a skill the public is willing to pay you for.
Rocket Scientists, yes
Engineers, yes
Pilots, yes
Plumbers, yes (A good one earns more than a rocket scientist)
Electricians, yes
doctors, yes
nurses, yes
pharmacists, yes
roughneck on a drilling rig, yes. Hard dangerous, pays well
someone who can repair my lawnmower, hell yes they are rare
someone that can clear land and trees, last guy had a masters of science but decided to get rich instead. He was making 500 dollars a day 15 years ago. In today’s money that is about 800 dollars. His prior job was as a school principal but he got fed up with the system. He was not a liberal.
Degrees are good, I have a few. My employers paid me for my skills. You do not need a degree to achieve great success, you need a skill people are willing to pay for.
Circa 1966,the dumbest dude on the High School football team barely graduated from High School. However he was ambitious and a hard working man. He went into small construction business in his local area. He has more wealth today than the two pharmacists, two doctors, one dentist and one lawyer that were on the football team. Degrees are nice, you do not need one if you have a skill to offer.
My uncle taught me something years ago and I have seen nothing in my experience to prove him wrong.
He always told me that progress is a natural reaction to pressure. If you take away the pressure, you take away the progress. The Dems are always trying to relive the pressure which I have always interpreted to mean prevent progress.
If college ever becomes completely free, university degrees will become worthless. One of the reason HS degrees don’t mean what they used to 50 years ago is because they are free to get and everyone has one as a result....well most everyone. NY is apparently trying to create worthless college degrees right now.
What if every player who tried out for an NFL team was guaranteed to a spot on the roster? The team would suck because the pressure would be off. Would any of us had gone to college, learned our trade, or what have you if we were guaranteed 150k/yr for the rest of our lives? No way! It’s not complicated stuff, but the more the left tries to fix things, the more they screw everything up. NY Universities are next on the agenda apparently.
College was much more affordable in those days, before government subsidies drove tuition costs beyond all reason.
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