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McCain on filibuster change: ‘It’s a bad day for democracy’
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Posted on 04/06/2017 1:27:54 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., bemoaned the state of the Senate on Thursday as Majority Leader Mitch McConnell moved to change the chamber’s rules in order to break through the Democratic filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch with a simple majority. Earlier in the day, Republicans failed to reach the 60-vote supermajority needed to end debate and proceed to a vote.

“It’s a bad day for democracy,” McCain said before entering the Senate chamber, where he later voted with fellow Republicans to change the rules. “I think it’s a terrible mistake that we will regret for many, many years to come.”

McCain called the rule-change a “slippery slope” that “will clearly lead to more extreme appointments for both sides” — and could embolden senators to change the rules for considering legislation, too.

“We went from judges, to [a] Supreme Court justice,” McCain said. “What’s next?”

McConnell has said he would not change the Senate rules for legislation.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democracy; filibuster; mcain; mccain
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yeah, good thing we’re not a Democracy, eh, Johnny?


61 posted on 04/06/2017 1:58:59 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“It’s a bad day for democracy,” McCain said before entering the Senate chamber, where he later voted with fellow Republicans to change the rules.

The man is completely unprincipled. He does not even adhere to the deeply flawed principles he espouses.


62 posted on 04/06/2017 1:59:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Shut up, McInsane. I swear he’s the worst camera-hogging scum in the Senate, completely worthless. He’s worse than Chuckie Schumer, and that’s saying a lot.


63 posted on 04/06/2017 2:01:15 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dear Juan,

Republicans control 32 state legislatures (both houses).

If we had stuck to the constitutional manner of picking senators, today’s vote would have easily reached 64, and probably even higher.

No use complaining about screwing up the system after its already been screwed up.


64 posted on 04/06/2017 2:01:41 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Sans-Culotte

“I think it’s a terrible mistake that we will regret for many, many years to come.”

Could just as easily be said about Juan’s last re-election.


65 posted on 04/06/2017 2:02:46 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Will someone please inform McCain that former President John Quincy Adams, who was around when the Declaration was passed, and when the Constitution was framed, cleared up the question about whether the United States is a Democracy or a Republic when he was invited by the NY Historical Society to deliver the 50th Anniversary Address in that City, as follows:
“But this institution was republican, and even democratic. And here not to be misunderstood, I mean by democratic, a government, the administration of which must always be rendered comfortable to that predominating public opinion . . . and by republican I mean a government reposing, not upon the virtues or the powers of any one man - not upon that honor, which Montesquieu lays down as the fundamental principle of monarchy - far less upon that fear which he pronounces the basis of despotism; but upon that virtue which he, a noble of aristocratic peerage, and the subject of an absolute monarch, boldly proclaims as a fundamental principle of republican government. The Constitution of the United States was republican and democratic - but the experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived; and it was obvious that if virtue - the virtue of the people, was the foundation of republican government, the stability and duration of the government must depend upon the stability and duration of the virtue by which it is sustained.” - John Quincy Adams - "Jubilee" Address, April, 1839

Just because the liberals/progressives have promoted in error the idea that the wise Founders and Framers of our Constitution does not make it the truth. As a matter of fact, they indicated clearly why, as JQA stated above.

Also, Benjamin Franklin left the Hall, he stated to the lady who questioned what kind of government they had formed, "A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it."

Wouldn't it be great if the "Republic-ans" like McCain knew, and could articulate, that idea?

66 posted on 04/06/2017 2:04:30 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: ChicagoConservative27

McCain wants liberal Justices to be appointed to the Supreme Court. The nuclear option takes away his excuse for pursuing that goal. That’s what he’s complaining about.


67 posted on 04/06/2017 2:05:57 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s terrible, yet he went along with it. He makes no sense...and he knows full well that if the Democrats had recaptured the Senate, and Hillary was elected, this same vote would be taking place right now. The only difference is that now the same standard applies to Republican nominees that apply to Democrat nominees.


68 posted on 04/06/2017 2:07:10 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: loveliberty2
Ooops!!! "Just because the liberals/progressives have promoted in error the idea that the wise Founders and Framers of our Constitution does not make it the truth. As a matter of fact, they indicated clearly why, as JQA stated above." Should be: "Just because the liberals/progressives have promoted in error the idea that the wise Founders and Framers of our Constitution gave us a "democracy" does not make it the truth. As a matter of fact, they indicated clearly why, as JQA stated above."
69 posted on 04/06/2017 2:07:55 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Funny I don’t remember him saying anything when the dims changed things. Reed started this, what goes around comes around. We have had many “bad days for democracy” while McCain has stood by and said nothing or reached across that aisle to support the dims.


70 posted on 04/06/2017 2:09:13 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Thanks, Arizona, for giving the country 30 YEARS (five senate terms!) of this insufferable man, the media’s favorite “maverick” republican.


71 posted on 04/06/2017 2:09:25 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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So McTraitor doesn’t rip the Rats for causing this. How I loath this prick. I would love to know what Mitch had to do to get Graham, Collins, Murkowski and Juan to go along with this. It must just killed them to do it.


72 posted on 04/06/2017 2:10:44 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I have heard talking heads saying that all day. Why? The Constitution calls for Senate confirmation of SCOTUS nominees - simple majority satisfies that requirement.


73 posted on 04/06/2017 2:11:03 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

When McCain was a prisoner of war, the enemy not only damaged his body, but also did a number on his mind. This is an angry man. Lunatic is putting it mildly.


74 posted on 04/06/2017 2:11:18 PM PDT by lombardwarrior2
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To: lombardwarrior2

He started out at the bottom of his class to begin with.


75 posted on 04/06/2017 2:14:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Really? - Rush Limbaugh today gave a little history - apparently the use of the filibuster to stop federal judges didn’t start until 2003, when the ‘rat congress brought it into the mix to stop some of Bush’s lower court appointees - we’re just going back to what was always the procedure with this new terrible step....


76 posted on 04/06/2017 2:16:26 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Good thing we’re not a democracy.


77 posted on 04/06/2017 2:17:40 PM PDT by mykroar (Congratulations President Trump)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Correction: it’s a great day for democracy, a bad day for republicanism.
But the Senate has been a demoicratic institution ever since the 1990’s when the national media started controlling Senate races.

But the legislative filibuster will never be surrendered. The Senators would lose too much power over the House.


78 posted on 04/06/2017 2:17:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’m not sure how Obama’s pick’s could have been more extreme... McCain’s nuts.


79 posted on 04/06/2017 2:21:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Unmasked reports transferred face-to-face at obscure airport: Obama to Lynch to Bill Clinton?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh puleeze.....you’re such a disgrace McLame. SHAME on Arizona!


80 posted on 04/06/2017 2:28:16 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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