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1 posted on 04/06/2017 8:32:25 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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Reminds me of My Cousin Vinny: “Either way, you’re gonna get f*****d”.

Any questions?


2 posted on 04/06/2017 8:34:30 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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The concept in the 2nd sentence makes sense.


3 posted on 04/06/2017 8:37:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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WTH is wrong with the GOPe anyway?! They need to be voted OUT — and ASAP too. Facist pigs.


4 posted on 04/06/2017 8:37:30 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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NO!!! WHY VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICANS IF THEY’RE JUST GOING TO GIVE THE DEMOCRATS WHAT THEY WANT?????????


5 posted on 04/06/2017 8:37:34 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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15 billion?

That would cover about 10 people in the ICU for about 20 days or so.


6 posted on 04/06/2017 8:39:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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If I’m an insurance company and I’m not required to enroll people with pre-existing conditions, then subsidy or no why would I want to? My liability is unlimited. My probability of paying out far more than I get in premiums is near 100%. I’m going to lose money without a subsidy which may or may not be enough, and which can be repealed at any time. The insurance company would be foolish to do so, which is why the pre-Obama high risk pools were all run by the states.


8 posted on 04/06/2017 8:40:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Aren’t we lucky to have such an elite group in Washington making all our tough decisions for us?


9 posted on 04/06/2017 8:40:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Why? What if they can pay? Why am I as a tax payer hit with a bill for a rich person with a pre existing conditions You do see the kick backs coming to these law makers from insurance companies , dont you. These people need to go to a high risk pool and THEY pay high risk premiums. After they exhaust all resources then we can subsidize.That aint no 15 BILLION!! We are broke. We don’t have 15 billion for new debt. What happens to the credits we hand out for oremiums for some people to buy their insurancee? Do we buy then a car? a new big house? How about some nice baggy pants? Where in the constituition do I have to pay for someone elses’s stuff? This Stinks!! FREE MARLET NOT COMMUNISM!!


11 posted on 04/06/2017 8:41:43 AM PDT by WENDLE (Obama administration Wire Tapped the Trump campaign for political purpose.)
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Polishing the turd. But it is a Republican plan, so it is a-okay. In fact, this is the greatest healthcare plan ever. Just beautiful plan.


13 posted on 04/06/2017 8:42:25 AM PDT by sagar
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Lawmakers say the new funds would bring down premiums for healthy people by subsidizing medical costs for people with especially high expenses.

Well, that should fix everything. My only question is, why didn't they use some of this free money the first time around and save everyone all this drama?
14 posted on 04/06/2017 8:42:40 AM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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An amendment to the GOP's repeal plan would dole out $15 billion to insurers over nine years to help cover the costs of sick

Make it $45 Billion. You just KNOW costs are going to explode. Politically-connected, crony capitalist insiders are good at that.

Also, just watch as things like "pregnancy" or transgenderism become "pre-existing conditions"

15 posted on 04/06/2017 8:43:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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GOP amendment would give $15 billion to insurers for high-cost patients

GOP amendment would take $15 billion from responsible taxpayers to spend on high-cost patients - fixed it

If they're sick it's a shame, but why should that be my problem?

16 posted on 04/06/2017 8:43:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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The repeal plan should be much shorter: Repeal. Nothing more.


19 posted on 04/06/2017 8:44:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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The Freedom Caucus wants this separate risk pool - anyone know why? If it’s to get old fashioned insurance into regular folks hands at a market price and put the high risk folks over alone in a transparent pool, I’m for it. High risks folks are going to get care, that’s a given, not having it ruin everything for everyone else is the solve.


22 posted on 04/06/2017 8:46:02 AM PDT by major-pelham
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This deal sucks. Why does any tax payer have to pay for another taxpayer? The insurance companies get rich off this and the damned Doctors. This is absolutely out of control. I guess we shovel tax dollars to the insurance company to guarantee a profit!! I guarantee our premiums will NOT go down. This is corruption by the insurance lobby.

Return to pre obama care free market !! It was great. My premium was $157. I had a $300 deductible!! I don’t want to pay for others that don’t want to work hard and pay for their own. REPEAL OBAMA CARE and get out of the health insurance business!!


26 posted on 04/06/2017 8:51:37 AM PDT by WENDLE (Obama administration Wire Tapped the Trump campaign for political purpose.)
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Further proof of my lifelong belief:

There's no situation that can't be made 100 times worse by getting the government involved.

The government, especially federal, should NEVER have gotten involved in health care in the first place, in ANY capacity.

They've never had the mandate, and they've never had the right.

31 posted on 04/06/2017 8:58:56 AM PDT by Washi (Google "the long march through the institutions" to see how the left is waging their revolution)
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yet another scheme totally unrelated to the promises to REPEAL AND REPLACE obamacare ...


34 posted on 04/06/2017 9:11:00 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Trump needs to address the nation to explain exactly how Obamacare has destroyed healthcare.

It was a pack of lies, plain and simply.

Keep your plan, your Dr and save at least 2400.00

What it did is dump those with pre-existing conditions, who were covered at a reasonable price by their old plans.

The whole thing was simply a pathway to single-payer and Marxist control over our very lives.

It all needs to be repealed, the pain and cost of caring for those with pre-existing conditions will have to be born by the middle-class taxpayer...because that is where all the money is.

The entire blame belongs to the democrats, not a single republican voted for the monstrosity.

There is only one way to mitigate the fiasco, deny all medical care to illegals. If they become ill and show up in an ER then after stabilization they are immediately flown back to their country of origin.

All benefits for illegals must be denied, schooling, healthcare, welfare of ANY sort. Just send them back or make them self-deport.

These measure will enable us to care for those with pre-existing conditions who were screwed by Obamacare.

Insurance will NOT be mandatory, but if you can afford to and refuse to get insurance then any cost incurred by the taxpayer will be your responsibility and NOT dischargeable under bankruptcy law....i.e. the debt will follow you forever.


35 posted on 04/06/2017 9:12:33 AM PDT by Bobalu ( Healthcare - someone must pay. Who should it be, and how did they get that obligation?)
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These people are retarded.


36 posted on 04/06/2017 9:21:34 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Thank you for referencing that article GIdget2004. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

The GOP is clearly not listening to patriots as per the following explanation. (How many times are us patriots going to allow GOP to fool us?)

Patriots are reminded that, regardless what state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices want everybody to think about the constitutionality of Obamacare, it remains that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the exerpts below.

Regarding the constitutionality of the Obamacare insurance mandate for example, note the fourth entry in the list from Paul v. Virginia, that case decided by a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices. The Roberts Supreme Court ignored that these justices had clarified that regulating insurance is not within the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), regardless if the parties negotiating the insurance policy are domiciled in different states.

So patriots are once again warned that if they do not support Pres. Trump in peacefully “forcing” the corrupt feds to surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states, then it is only a matter of time before corrupt Congress is once again working in cahoots with a lawless president to use those stolen state powers to oppress the sovereign states and their citizens.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch is approved but turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.


37 posted on 04/06/2017 9:23:57 AM PDT by Amendment10
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