Posted on 03/30/2017 6:57:15 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist
"The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!" - Donald Trump
Trump PROMISED to repeal ObamaCare. That is what FC was insisting on. not 150% of repeal, only 100%.
As I surmised. You have nothing. President Trump hasn’t disavowed anyone. He hasn’t “declared war” on anyone. What a bunch of horsedung.
Thank you for the link to Opensecrets site. I also took a quick look at the Tuesday Group which features John Kasich but have to check that out later. Guessing that it is not going to be helpful to Pres Trump with Kasich involved. I am glad Trump is a fighter and not one to just say to hell with it all! Which is of course why he got elected.
Your version is not how Jim Jordan says it went down.
Jordan says they got Trump to agree to some things and Ryan stabbed them in the back and said the agreed upon things could not happen.
Since Ryan lied about everything about this bill, including the opinion of the Senate parliamentarian about the reconciliation issue, and since Ryan is a declared NeverTrumper, who do you think should be believed?
What about the antics of the Tuesday Group, who have publicly stated they hate the FC and will not work with them? No “Art of the Deal “ for them?
Conservatives and Independents got Trump elected, not the NeverTrumpers and the Rinos.
The President is being ill-served by Ryan,Priebus,Pence and until today, Walsh.
The people who need a kick in the ass is not the FC, but the RINO GOP, who have once again sided with the Deep State and against the people.
I don’t know if Kasich has even spoken to Trump since the debates...HE was horrible to Trump not attending the convention and not giving his delegates to Trump.
He is worse than Ryan, tho he doesn’t wield the power Ryan does.
Trump is a fighter—I just don’t like the threats—Before Trump ran, it seems to me the Freedom Caucus were the only House members providing any opposition to Obama. Seems unfair to throw them under the bus yet the pro-Obamacare Tuesday Group gets a pass.
He is getting very bad advice. Does he think conservatives voted for him so he could cave to the RINOs who did not? He is killing his chances to hold the House next year.
I will repeal Obamacare!
He said it over and over again. Part of his stump speech.
He did NOT say: We need to to tweek Obamacare so that the insurance industry can make more money while leaving the middle class with an impossible burden!! Which is what he and Ryan are pushing.
So now, while reneging on his campaign promise and demanding that conservatives support him in such a betrayal, he declares that it is his intention to seek our defeat in 2018 (”We must fight them in 2018!”-exclamation point in the original).
If that’s how he wants it, then so be it. Maybe he’ll be successful and he’ll defeat conservatives in 2018. Then again, maybe he won’t be so successful after all. And after 2018, comes 2020.
That is declaring war and Trump has lost me if he doesn’t reverse himself. We didn’t vote him in for this uniparty crap. He doesn’t care about healthcare as an issue and he can afford to self-insure. But cementing the worst of Obamacare like this is inexcusable and not what he promised. He has filled his admin withth liberal Democrats and betrayed us.
First of all, I didn’t mean “so called Conservatives” directed at you, I should have been more clear.
Second off, I am grown. He’s not negotiating, when he says the Freedom Caucus is for abortions and Planned Parenthood, that’s bullshit and you know it. Yes the Ryancare Bill should have “died,” but Trump should have never supported it in the first place. I do not want centralized Healthcare run by the HHS in D.C. Now I voted for him and have and will praise him when does the right thing, but I will not bite my tongue when I think he is wrong, and he is dead wrong on healthcare, and he’s not following his campaign promises. This 3 Phase crap is just that,crap.
“That’s how adults get things done in the real world?” And you’re telling me to grow up. Insulting people is not a way to win favor with anyone, I’d like to see you insult someone and win their favor. GTHOOH. His tweets are childish. I hope they do work something out, but he’d damn sure be apologizing for acting like a Democrat with that childish name calling.
I worship no man, no party. I worship the True God and True Man and that’s it. I’ve lived long enough to say what I want to say, and if anyone doesn’t like it, that’s their problem not mine.
Anybody who was or is for that bill is against our Veterans, it’s that simple.
It’s been so long since people have seen others stand on principal you don’t even recognize it when you see it.
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So gracious. So mature.
Going out on a limb here...
Seems to me there are some “Conservative Representatives” whom for what ever reason would rather leave Obamacare in place.
Here in lies the problem. To many of us, right now we’re in huge problems because of this Socialist experiment, an experiment that’s doomed to fail.
While I wasn’t in love with the alternative proposed, seems to me it was a hell of a lot better than what we have.
Now we have the Freedom Caucus standing in the way, taking the posture that if it isn’t perfect, they will refuse to support it.
In the mean time, who’s truly getting hurt? Most of us.
I’m thinking back to the never Trumpers and truly questioning what their motivations were? While they hid behind the “must be pure ideologically” argument, I think most of us saw that to be a false argument. Thinking that may be the same mentality here. Maybe these people are actually supportive of Obamacare for political reasons or maybe they think the current system is just fine. I don’t know. But what I do know is this Republican Party is fresh out of excuses. They control all three branches now. This is shades of why many of us called Republicans in the past the stupid party.
If Obamacare remains the law, what reasons would we have to support these people again?
I was told by a fellow Freeper to just be patient. Well, my patients are just about gone. Fix it now....or else.
Why do you keep posting this misinformation? He said he would replace it with a more free market solution and he gave and posted multiple examples of this during the campaign. I have given you links on this previously, yet you continue with this disinformation.
Trump doesn’t realize all those conservatives will be re-elected for not voting for that piece of sh*t Ryan tried to pass. Trump puts himself and the Rhino’s in harms way not the other way around. Trump keeps going against the conservatives that put him in office he’ll be a one termer...........He’s getting terrible political advice. He’s lucky it didn’t pass because it makes THE PROBLEM WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Need to formulate a conservative plan than move towards the center to gain votes, not the other away around. Nixon use to say you run hard to your base than towards the center. That’s what Rhinos and Trump don’t understand. That’s why we ended up with losers like McStupid and Romney.
Trump has not out a foot wrong over th least two years. He saved this country (and the world) from nuclear war.
I trust him above any dweebs after a career in politics
That’s right. In America “We The People” are the “boss”. And ultimately God is the boss.
It’s nuts ain’t it?
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I have to acknowledge I can’t follow all the various machinations in WashDC, its good you have a handle on those basturds.... smile smile smile
thanks for the info..
Yeah, and it’s pretty disheartening.
The hacks in the Freedom Caucus should have put up their own plan for Health Care Reform.
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