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My Final Thoughts on The Failed Healthcare Reform…
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 03/24/2017 | Sundance

Posted on 03/25/2017 6:47:57 AM PDT by nhwingut

CTH has fought this for years. The best thing we can do now is to try and assist people with information that will help them make forward decisions. It isn’t Paul Ryan’s fault and I’ll explain on that later. First the foundations:

All DC Republicans and all DC Democrats are the DC UniParty. The DC UniParty is fueled by special interest donor lobbying money. The DC UniParty created Obamacare and the DC UniParty wants ObamaCare to remain in place.

For six years we have attempted, and failed, to educate people on the UniParty. There is only one political party in Washington DC, the UniParty.

In 2009 The U.S. Chamber of Commerce (Donohue), the AFL-CIO (Trumka), SEIU (Stern), AFSCME together with Wall Street, Big Pharma and Big Healthcare entered into negotiations with a massive White House team to create ObamaCare. [see the collage above] Everything after that successfully executed ’09/’10 deal was each organization ensuring the construct remained in place.

Period.

Republicans do not want ObamaCare repealed. Whenever you see people talking about a republican ‘this‘, or a republican ‘that‘ wanting to repeal ObamaCare – It’s false.

This reality underwrites the reason why Ryan refused to have an actual vote on the record today. The UniParty scheme can only exist so long as you remain blind to their affiliation and purposes.

Period.

Those who say there are politicians within DC that want to repeal ObamaCare are absolute liars. It is a 100% false assertion. This is a narrative of fakery created by specific and intentional design, being utilized as countermeasures to throw you off the trail. The narrative is intended to keep you from identifying the reality of the DC UniParty and the trillion dollar legislative agenda.

Repeat. The Republican Party does not want to repeal ObamaCare. (Neither does the Democrat party.)

Both sides of the Uniparty have fought to retain ObamaCare’s existence. The House GOP fully funded it in every year since 2010. All efforts made to give the illusion of ‘other‘ are exactly that, an illusion. That illusion is called “controlled opposition“. An example of that “controlled opposition” is the House Freedom Caucus. The HFC voted for Paul Ryan as House Speaker.

Period.

Everything appearing ‘other‘ is a distracting ruse; a scheme to hide the intent of retention.

The UniParty worked to defeat candidate Donald Trump. They lost. Stunningly.

Donald Trump coming to DC meant the UniParty needed an even bigger and better set of countermeasures if they were going to remain indulged.

Hence, the Ryan Healthcare plan.

Counter to popularly expressed BCS opinion, it wasn’t President Trump who wanted the Ryan Healthcare plan to fail, it was the UniParty – including Ryan himself. President Trump wanted the approach to succeed, the UniParty did not.

Just like all of the connected candidates in the 2016 GOP Primary (Graham, Pataki, Gilmore, Fiorina, Huckabee, Paul, Rubio et al), the Ryan Healthcare plan was “controlled opposition”; only necessary because President Trump won the 2016 election.

The problem for the DC Uniparty wasn’t that the Ryan healthcare reform might fail, the problem was that it might succeed. Hence billionaire donors who were vested in the construct needed immediately to give support to those who would eliminate it; and ultimately Ryan needed to avoid a vote on the proposal.

President Trump being fully versed in the techniques of “controlled opposition“, actually stunned the UniParty by putting his support behind it. That was unexpected.

Now, as they retreat to their safe spaces, the UniParty is trying to create the narrative that the plan failed because of Paul Ryan.

Again, this is a false premise.

The Healthcare plan failed because the billionaire funders who underwrite the construct (and who demand retention) gave cover under the ruse of threatening the HFC.

Blaming Ryan now only allows the UniParty to hide again. And keeps everyone in the dark about the actual construct of the UniParty.

The House Freedom Caucus are just as much a part of the UniParty as Paul Ryan. Each becoming “controlled opposition” on an ‘as-needed’ basis.

ObamaCare will fail. ObamaCare was designed to fail. What follows the failure of ObamaCare is a single-payer system, again supported by the Big Government UniParty.

There was one shot at avoiding the single-payer conclusion. That shot was to actually pass the repeal and replace O-Care proposal previously designed by Dr. Tom Price.

The only reason why the bill was put forth, was because Trump won the election. The UniParty had no option other than to put some form of Repeal/Replace forth or the electoral sunlight would have exposed the UniParty.

We cannot now avoid the path to single-payer government controlled healthcare.

The UniParty republicans do not want ObamaCare repealed.

No repeal bill can pass because of this essential fact.

For Six Years – We tried to warn…. We failed.

Moving on now.

And before you light up the comments section telling CTH about all of these endlessly possible plans being put forth by (___ Fill In The Blank ___) please note the following reality:

…The Republicans Do Not Want to Repeal ObamaCare!…

So if you have a plan for legislation to repeal ObamaCare that does not include Republicans or Democrats, your healthcare plan might succeed.

Otherwise it’s a unicorn fantasy.

We are getting single-payer.

Conduct yourselves accordingly.







TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; freedomcaucus; obamacare; paulryan; rayancarebillpulled; ryan; ryancarebill; sundance; trump; uniparty
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1 posted on 03/25/2017 6:47:57 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

If we add 24 Million new Enrollee’s to Obamacare that are ineligible for Subsidies, it will be Solvent and can be Saved.

Dear Mr President,

It is time to concede, Congress will never repeal Obamacare nor will they do anything of substance to improve the lives of Americans. This is all smoke and mirrors and we the people are going to be left holding the bag once again.

Why don’t you just Concede to Obamacare?? Not only should you concede this trivial fight I think you should FULLY EMBRACE OBAMACARE. Why should the Taxpayers be stuck with paying for all these Inferior, High Priced, Cadillac Plans for all of our 24 MILLION Federal Employees? Don’t our Public Employees and Public Servants deserve the Very Finest Health Care this COuntry has to offer?

I believe they deserve the Best Health Care America has to offer, and that is the Official Government Health Care Plan, Obamacare. So why don’t you quit pussyfooting around and Proudly Proclaim your desire to see that ALL Federal Employees receive the Finest, Most Affordable Health Care the US has to offer, OBAMACARE.

All the Money currently wasted on these inferior high priced cadillac plans can be diverted to the Wall.

There is ONLY ONE WAY to make it happen:

Executive Orders

1. All waivers to the Affordable Care act are hereby repealed.

2. There shall be NO funds drawn from the treasury to pay for Health Insurance for ANY Federal Employee except Members of the Armed Services.

3. ALL Federal Employees except members of the US Armed Services, SHALL purchase their own personal and Family Health Insurance from the Affordable Care Exchange in the state they legally reside.

And to make sure it is Bipartisan, President Trump should VETO it every Time and FORCE them to Override his Veto to Repeal this Monstrosity.

Sign these 3 orders and it will be FULLY REPEALED in Less than 30 days.

NOT UNTIL, Anyone want to make a BET???

I would also consider another Executive Order Withholding All Transportation Funds from All States that do Not have Their Public Employees enrolled in Obamacare, just to Prove a Point.

When and ONLY WHEN Government Lives under the Same Laws as us will anything substantial happen


2 posted on 03/25/2017 6:51:22 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: nhwingut

We should never forget how many Republican Representatives only do what their Corporate Masters demand.

In the case of Health Insurance the Corporate Masters would like to get rid of the cost of supplying Health Insurance to their employees and instead let the Federal Government handle it.

The Corporate Masters want their Republican Representatives to pass laws that lower their cost of doing business. eg. lower corporate taxes, reduce regulations, or move health insurance from the corporate books to the government books.

In almost all countries the government taxes people for health insurance/care. The USA is unique in having the Corporate Masters providing most of the health insurance.


3 posted on 03/25/2017 6:54:33 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I wouldn’t complain about an employer looking to get rid of the cost of health insurance for his employees. There’s no damn good reason why an employer should ever be obligated to take on this responsibility.


4 posted on 03/25/2017 6:57:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: nhwingut

Most coherent comments about repeal/replace on FR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:owen/index?brevity=full;tab=comments


5 posted on 03/25/2017 6:57:56 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: nhwingut

Keep thin one principal in mind— LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Thank you FREEDOM caucas / What heroes you are today. God bless you!!


6 posted on 03/25/2017 6:58:03 AM PDT by WENDLE (WE DEFEATED RINOCARE! NOW WE WANT FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: eyeamok

Brilliant. Submitted to Team Trump just now.


7 posted on 03/25/2017 6:58:19 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: eyeamok

“...When and ONLY WHEN Government Lives under the Same Laws as us will anything substantial happen...”

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The only thing that will make this happen is revolution....


8 posted on 03/25/2017 6:58:50 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: eyeamok

That is the only way to fix it.

No one gets an exemption except the military.


9 posted on 03/25/2017 6:58:56 AM PDT by logitech
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To: eyeamok

Send this to the White House suggestions email account.


10 posted on 03/25/2017 6:59:15 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: eyeamok

Brilliant.


11 posted on 03/25/2017 6:59:26 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Please check out TheCitizensAudit.com to find out what David Brock has been doing)
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To: eyeamok

There you have it; repeal and replace won’t pass because then the swampsters have to pay for their insurance. For this gang of thieves, liars and perverts we get the privilege of paying them $174k/yr. to screw us.

No more. Ignore them; it takes away the power they so crave. Let them know that if illegals can break the law, so can you.


12 posted on 03/25/2017 7:01:41 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: logitech

That probably won’t fly. There would have to be a religious exemption, too. The Amish are exempt even from Social Security and Medicare for that reason.


13 posted on 03/25/2017 7:01:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

IMO, make the decision, repeal and drop any plan to save odumbocare, PERIOD! Turn the task of developing a workable health care plan which INCLUDES EVERYONE (politicians included) over to private developers (insurance and healthcare people) who have ZERO connection to any politicians and will not be tempted by kickbacks (hard to find these days). Then, MAYBE a workable plan will surface.


14 posted on 03/25/2017 7:08:05 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: NTHockey

Bttt!


15 posted on 03/25/2017 7:08:48 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that rmemoveth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: logitech

Why even them. I love my guys and gals in uniform. But withe the exception of battle injuries they too should have access to what the CiC or congress gets.


16 posted on 03/25/2017 7:08:57 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Alberta's Child

But there was a reason the corporations wanted to be obligated to provide health insurance. In World War Two there was a labor shortage and price controls. Providing health care was a way to attract workers without violating the price controls. Then in Post World War Two the income tax code was revised and healthcare benefits given to employees were not taxable.

Move forward to today and with open borders the corporations can bring all the employees they want from other countries and do not have to give these employees any benefits.

The world of corporate benefits has changed dramatically and that is why the corporatists and globalists are fighting Trump.

When Trump erects the physical wall and closes other illegal routes, the corporatists will no longer have access to cheap and abundant labor.


17 posted on 03/25/2017 7:09:16 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: eyeamok

It may be brilliant but even if Trump did these EOs, what makes you think they couldn’t find a judge within about 12 hours who would declare them unconstitutional and put your plan in the same place the immigration orders are in?

Even if the Ryan bill had bassed and was passed by the Senate and signed into law, I would fully expect them to challenge it in court. Other than weak-kneed Republicans, judicial activism is the only cart they hold.


18 posted on 03/25/2017 7:11:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I know the history, but come on — World War II ended more than 70 years ago. Make health insurance taxable just like any other insurance benefit and watch how quickly things change.


19 posted on 03/25/2017 7:11:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: eyeamok; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ASA Vet; ...

PING!!!!

See post #2
It is time to concede, Congress will never repeal Obamacare nor will they do anything of substance to improve the lives of Americans......

There is ONLY ONE WAY to make it happen:

Executive Orders

1. All waivers to the Affordable Care act are hereby repealed.

2. There shall be NO funds drawn from the treasury to pay for Health Insurance for ANY Federal Employee except Members of the Armed Services.

3. ALL Federal Employees except members of the US Armed Services, SHALL purchase their own personal and Family Health Insurance from the Affordable Care Exchange in the state they legally reside.

And to make sure it is Bipartisan, President Trump should VETO it every Time and FORCE them to Override his Veto to Repeal this Monstrosity.
.....
Sign these 3 orders and it will be FULLY REPEALED in Less than 30 days.

When and ONLY WHEN Government Lives under the Same Laws as us will anything substantial happen

Thanks, eyeamok


20 posted on 03/25/2017 7:16:50 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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