No, the Freedom Caucus needs to be lauded for their efforts to repeal AND NOT REPLACE OR REPAIR Obamacare.
Sure -— The Freedom Caucus should be ashamed of itself by standing up for conservatism and denying Trump the ability to foist RINOCare on us and check off a box (campaign promise). Yeah right.
There is nothing magical about Friday. They should all lock themselves into a room until they get it right.
The establishment Republicans have had eight years to figure out a health care bill that makes sense, review it, promote it, and convince the American people that it is good for them, or most of them. If they’ve done a damned thing, I haven’t heard of it. If they have a plan, I haven’t heard any details.
All I know is that Paul Ryan has pulled something, I have no idea what, because he and his cloakroom buddies haven’t tried to market it, apparently out of his butt, and his ENTIRE focus seems to be who’s the guy with the big cojones in the Senate.
I am not interested in passing a bill so Paul Ryan can say “Look at Me! Me! Me!. I passed a bill!” “They asked ‘Are we going to have a bill?’ and I said ‘Yes, we’re going to have a bill.’ And now we have a bill. And I, Paul Ryan, did it. I won a big victory for OUR SIDE. I’m the BSD of the Senate”.
Nor am I particularly interested in passing a bill just to “destroy Obama’s legacy.” At the end of the day the bills I care about are the doctor bills.
I am WAY less concerned about who gets the gold medal for Senate manoeuvring than the consequences we’re going to be stuck with if the bill passes. I have yet to have anyone explain it.
The only things I’ve heard that I understand is that the bill provides for Health Savings Accounts and supposedly the House made changes to the McCarren-Ferguson act. I’ve already got an HSA, so if it’s going to be improved, that might be something. No one has spilled the details, though. If it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, no one’s trying to promote it.
The house supposedly did something in regard to the McCarren-Ferguson act, which no one has ever heard of, but I know what it is. It is an act that removed insurance from the definition of “commerce” to make the insurance regulated separately by each state. Presumably this had to do with “shopping for insurance across state lines”. If so, no one has bothered to clue the public in on it.
Part of being a legislator is keeping the public informed what you are doing. It ain’t happening, and I am not prepared to assume “but that’s OK”.
I have a sincere question. Does HR 1628 actually get rid of ObamaCare, or does it merely give a bad law a new name to blame? No matter what its official name, the GOP will own "TrumpCare" or "RyanCare" just as surely as the Democrats have owned "ObamaCare" for seven years. Unless we reinstitute a market-based system, this ticking time bomb will be lit with a Republican fuse. I'd rather let ObamaCare collapse than merely lend it a Republican face. Do it right, or don't do it at all.
I stand with The Freedom Caucus! And am sick of the “it’s too hard!” crowd enabling the sick senate.
Pass a clean repeal, with an effective date 4 months after it passes. That will hold a gun to their heads of the beta males and their friends in the senate.
Next, create, pass, and send one bill with everything we want—across state lines, tort reform, etc. Let the cowardly wimps vote in public and we’ll take care of them. Anyone not on board will be doxed and we’ll friken show up at their house.
While in spirit, my heart is with the Freedom Caucus and I agree that Obamacare should be repealed lock, stock, and barrel with no “replace”. Sometimes you just to have to bow to reality, and that reality is we all got snookered. The Republican establishment never intended to repeal Obamacare, not the twelve times they passed a repeal because they knew Obama would veto it, not now, not ever. The reality of the situation is Trump is sadly correct, we have two choices, do nothing and keep Obamacare unchanged, or choose the Republican establishment “Obamacare-lite” bill which is perhaps slightly less onerous. It is obvious now that there is no third option, the establishment is never going to allow a full repeal, no matter what the Freedom Caucus says or does.
And conservatives should be pleased. I'm a conservative not a Republican.
TrumpCare hasn’t even been up for a vote yet. And so the GOP-e is already blaming conservatives (Freedom Caucus) in advance for when it fails?
Bull Cheese.
Just yesterday we were reading where the Freedom Caucus agreed to support this crap. Just so they would not get blamed for when it eventually fails in the Senate.
I believe they are the ones who will be reelected while the RINOs will be driven out. Hopefully!
You've gotten it completely wrong.
The Freedom Caucus isn't against repealing Obamacare, they are against the abomination that Ryan and crew have cooked up to replace it. Replacing horrible legislation (Obamacare) with merely bad legislation (Ryancare) isn't the answer.
I think that they should simply pass legislation that repeals Obamacare outright. Do this now, with an effective date of say, 1/1/2019. then we have time to address the changes needed to make private health insurance better, such as allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines, tort reform, etc. Kill Obamacare first and don't get bogged down in any replacement at all.
What are you, insane? The Freedom Caucus is the only semblance of conservatives we have in Congress!
This bill is a horror and they’ll be doing the president and the American people a favor by making it go down. Hillyer is simply a mouthpiece for the GOPe/uniparty here.
...old-school conservatives...
Ah, you’re either a Conservative or you’re not.
There isn’t two sets of Conservatives.
“Old-school Conservatives” are GOPe Leftists.
I guess it might be ok for the radical conservatives to cut off their noses to spite their face but it is bad form to complain about the pain and all the blood
> all-or-nothing, my-way-or-the-highway
That is RINO Ryan. Backed by American Action Network, the same group who pushed Gang of Eight Amnesty.