LGTB group launches campaign against national reciprocity

Guns.com ^ | 17 Mar 17 | Christen Smith

[SkyPilot]

Gays Against Guns, an LGTB gun violence prevention group, launched its first ad campaign Thursday against the concealed carry reciprocity proposals pending in Congress.

The latest demonstration from the group, founded in the wake of the Orlando nightclub shooting last year, features 20 advertisements shot in cities across the country depicting a protester holding a sign that reads “Not in my city” or “Not in my office,” among other randomly chosen locations. A second protester stands in the background, covered in a white veil, representing a victim of gun violence, the group says.

H.R. 38 and S. 446 would bring uniformity to the country’s patchwork of reciprocity agreements by allowing concealed handgun permit holders to carry across state lines — though gun control groups view it as “a dream for the gun lobby.”

HR 38 prime sponsor Rep. Richard Hudson, R-North Carolina, calls the bill, formally named the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, “a common sense solution to a problem too many Americans face.”

“Our Second Amendment right doesn’t disappear when we cross state lines, and this legislation guarantees that,” he said in a Jan. 4 statement. “This will provide law-abiding citizens the right to conceal carry and travel freely between states without worrying about conflicting state codes or onerous civil suits.”

Kevin Gotkin, a member of Gays Against Guns, says the proposals are “the opposite of common sense.”

“They undermine the safety established in places like New York City, where legislators have worked hard to protect us from gun deaths,” he said.

Everytown for Gun Safety and Moms Demand Action issued a joint statement last month condemning the companion bills, with Everytown President John Feinblatt declaring it “a nightmare for public safety.”

“The NRA’s Guns Everywhere bill will mean more gun violence and more gun deaths,”...

[SkyPilot]

The attached adverstisement video, by they way, contains lies such as "Buy a gun in Texas and bring it into a school in New York!" Total lie. Those concealed carry restrictions in schools, state parks, places of worship (where prohibited) and other venues will still apply.

Here is the problem, however, between the House and the Senate versions.

S. 444 (Senate version) will NOT allow a non-resident permit to be honored in the person's home state. The House version, H.R. 38, will honor non-resident permits to be honored in states that totally violate the 2nd amendment, such as CA, IL, HI, MA, MD, NJ, NY, and others.

Currently, if you have a non-resident permit from another state (you take an approved course, you get fingerprinted, you pay a fee, you send in your passport picture, you produce ID, etc.) your permit is only recognized by certain states. States like CA, MA, NJ, etc. refuse to recognize them, and will (and have) arrested people who unknowingly ran afoul of those state draconian and unconstitutional gun laws. People have gone to prison, lost their jobs, spent their entire life's savings on legal fees, and had their lives ruined.

National Reciprocity is trying to fix this, and President Trump supports it emphatically.

But the Senate version will create "have" and "have not" states. Just as in the US in 1850s, we will have "Slave" and "Free" states. A person with a non-resident permit or a resident from Pennsylvania crossing over to New Jersey could not be arrested for concealed carry under the Senate version, but a New Jersey resident would be thrown in prison because their non-resident Arizona permit would not have to be recognized.

National Reciprocity has been touted to prevent specific cases this the one below, but under the Senate version, these people would still go to prison and the constitutional rights would be toilet paper.

'Honest mistake' leads to Philly mother facing three years on gun charge

Call your legislators. We need the House version to be the one that comes out on top in Conference Committee.

[The Cuban]

Funny they have no problem with the unrestricted importation of the triggermen. Modern liberalism is a mental disorder.

[SkyPilot]

When these types of issues are discussed on FR, we usually have some people who chime in mocking other states and laughing at their rights being abused.

You know what I am talking about:

"Ha ha! That's why I live in XX state! Hope you jerks in XX state enjoy getting screwed! Ha ha ha!" Don't be that person.

Positions like that are as asinine as people who came on here to laugh at Californians who were threatened by the Orville dam, and wished pain and disaster upon them.

National Reciprocity will only work to secure our 2nd Amendment rights if if works nationally. We don't need to have a Dred Scott-esque position where some human beings in some states have more rights than in others.

[exnavy]

The second ammendment requires no modifiers. No law state federal or local restricting firearms is constitutional. Especially those requireing me to pay for that right.

[Tax-chick]

Another Soros or Bloomberg front group? Homosexuals are most likely to be killed by their own “partners.” What does concealed-carry reciprocity have to do with that?

[PLMerite]

“LGTB group launches campaign against national reciprocity”

“Not in my city” or “Not in my office”

If they’re really concerned about the health and safety of gays, shouldn’t it be “not in my a**” ?

[umgud]

bumpity

[Vlad The Inhaler]

This image Created By "Experts" At www.everytown.org Who Promote Gun Control And Oppose National Reciprocity

[Teacher317]

SMH... I can’t even...

[PGalt]

Another anti-constitutional, ant-individual SCUMSUCKING collective

[Ciaphas Cain]

Had there been no gun control in Germany, many individuals who brand themselves LGBT would have never been persecuted and then exterminated in the camps along with the millions of others.

I wonder if these anti-gun ownership idiots understand how their position is much akin to that of the Nazis.

[DesertRhino]

Wait, didn’t they demand that marriages on one state be recognized legally in all the others?

[Gaffer]

BLTGQ is a blight on civilized society.

[SkyPilot]

Wait, didn’t they demand that marriages on one state be recognized legally in all the others?

Of course, and they used selective courts (with sometime homosexual judges giving the rulings!) to overturn state laws recognizing marriage as between a man and woman. The homosexuals did not even use the legislative process, but the black robed tyrants.

Here is another example of the hypocrisy of the left: abortion. If any state passes a law that, say, prohibits partial-birth abortion (which is cold blooded murder), the left screeches that this state law must be abolished. However, they have selective amnesia when it comes to oppressive state gun laws.

[SkyPilot]

Here is a very handy concealed carry map guide. You can click on any state, select resident or non-resident CCW permit, and see which states currently honor or prohibit it.

https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

Again, we need the House version to pass. The Senate version will only strengthen the position of states that enforce unconstitutional gun laws.

[ronnie raygun]

Gays were the target of a terrorist shooting in florida and they parade around for the Muslims and anti guns. Another mentally challenged group of idiots, lambs to the slaughter

[Jack Hydrazine]

What we really need is national Constutional carry.

[Repeat Offender]

Kevin Gotkin, a member of Gays Against Guns, says the proposals are “the opposite of common sense.”

And yet to this poofter, buggering another man and engaging in high risk activities like trolling for anonymous gay sex, makes total sense.

[Delta 21]

I just renewed my KS CCL a few weeks ago. AND my KS Commercial Drivers license. At the same time, at the same window, by the same person, at the same State office. They both have the exact same information on them and the EXACT same identifying number.

How many different states do I have to get a drivers license from in order to drive there? Driving is a privilege.

Owning/carrying weapons is a constitutional right.

Why would I need a special permit to exercise my rights in your state but not one to exercise a privilege in your state?

[ml/nj]

Nothing more proves that "LGBT" issues are a fraud than how they line up with all the leftists on an assortment of issues, gun control being one of them.

If anything, it would seem to me that since these people claim that they are subject to random attacks because of their "sexuality," that they would be in the forefront of those demanding that they be allowed to protect themselves with bullets if necessary.

ML/NJ