[mad_as_he$$]

It is more likely Ryan is being lead down the path by Trump.

That said the Pottery Barn rule is the main point in this debate.

[major-pelham]

If you don’t understand there’s going to be a large medicaid expansion you don’t understand the issue - too many people are used to freeloading, too many people are on the dole, 100 million americans don’t work, 20% of households have no one working. If we don’t have a solution for those people we’ll never win an election again.

What we can hope for on health is that they put it back the way it was for us that do work and pay in. What we have is now is high deductible, crap insurance with sex change operation coverage no one wants or cares about. What we have are faithful employers that always paid 100% for everyone and now pay more than that for a 50% contribution for that crap insurance. This horse has left the barn. lets get on with Trumps three phase solution for healthcare and move forward to deregulation and economic growth and taxes.

[exDemMom]

First, while the federal government may save between $300-400 billion over the next few years if the law is enacted, the burden will shift to the states to pick up a bigger cost for Medicaid funding.

Isn't that a good thing?

I get really annoyed when I see a distinction made between state and federal money. There is none. The money comes from the same source--taxpayers. The only difference is that the state collects directly from the taxpayers, and the federal money comes back to the state after the federal government collects it. If the federal government is collecting so much tax money that it has leftovers to give back to the states after paying its operational costs, then the fed is collecting too much money.

Perhaps if states perceive that they are not getting enough (of their own money) back from the federal government to pay for Medicaid, perhaps they will be more diligent with how they dole out Medicaid.

And yes, I am aware that the Federal government isn't returning tax moneys to the states as much as it's borrowing money to funnel to the states. And we're in a huge mess with our debt at all levels of government.

[exDemMom]

First, while the federal government may save between $300-400 billion over the next few years if the law is enacted, the burden will shift to the states to pick up a bigger cost for Medicaid funding.

Isn't that a good thing?

I get really annoyed when I see a distinction made between state and federal money. There is none. The money comes from the same source--taxpayers. The only difference is that the state collects directly from the taxpayers, and the federal money comes back to the state after the federal government collects it. If the federal government is collecting so much tax money that it has leftovers to give back to the states after paying its operational costs, then the fed is collecting too much money.

Perhaps if states perceive that they are not getting enough (of their own money) back from the federal government to pay for Medicaid, perhaps they will be more diligent with how they dole out Medicaid.

And yes, I am aware that the Federal government isn't returning tax moneys to the states as much as it's borrowing money to funnel to the states. And we're in a huge mess with our debt at all levels of government.

[outinyellowdogcountry]

I hate Obamacare. That being said, there was a provision for Christian sharing ministries which we joined this year after premiums for two of us for O-care were going to be $1450 per month. I haven’t researched yet but we got an email that Christian sharing ministries are left out of Ryancare. How does that compute? A very liberal Democrat disaster plan offers but not a supposedly conservative Republican plan? That is no way to expand choices is it? Like I said, I still need to look into details so if any of you know more than me please share.

[OrioleFan]

The Ryan three phase approach to repeal and replace is BS and the Senate parliamentarian is blowing liberal smoke. The democraps got Obamacare passed on a simple majority in both houses. Repeal and replace should be done the same way. I’m tired of watching republicans in the Senate play by some arbitrary democrap rules. McConnell needs to do the job or step aside, and President Trump needs to steamroll Ryan.

[grey_whiskers]

Trump needs to put a poison-pill in this: Congress should require that ALL members of Congress, their Families, and Staff, be covered by the least-comprehensive level of Ryancare which is available to the general public, at the non-subsidized rate.

They are our elected representatives, not the Politburo.

[ichabod1]

“I am hoping that we’re able to reveal all of this and my greatest desire is to lead him right into impeachment.” ~Maxie

[wjcsux]

Later

[mulligan]

Think the President can find the proper path. He needs no leading. The Lord will guide him.

[imardmd1]

Well, heck, the Department of Education, the NEA and the AFT don’t even want native-born children to be assimilated as Constitutional Americans, let alone children of illegal alien infiltrators.

[Java4Jay]

President Trump is being led by Speaker Ryan down the wrong path toward health care reform.

BINGO !!!

[Java4Jay]

A RINO and a DEM are two of the same.

Trump needs to better align with The Freedom Caucus