Posted on 03/13/2017 7:25:27 PM PDT by Stopthethreat
The much-maligned Obamacare replacement bill will face its biggest test so far on Thursday, as a House of Representatives committee filled with conservatives could derail the legislation backed by Speaker Paul Ryan before it gets to the House floor.
If four Republicans join Democrats in voting against the bill in the House Budget Committee, the legislation will fail.
The uncertainty comes as the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released its estimate on the bill. It predicted Monday that 24 million people would lose health coverage by 2026 but that there would be a cut to the federal budget deficit of $337 billion over the first decade.
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At least seven Republican members of the Budget Committee have made public statements in the past week indicating they want a full repeal of Obamacare, but it’s unclear whether four of them will decide to go out on a limb and vote no.
One of them, Mark Sanford of South Carolina, joined Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at a news conference last week to slam the legislation as a dereliction of the Republican Party’s campaign promises.
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Is that a threat, or a promise?
I posted this in the Rasmussen thread, but maybe it’ll get some more visibility here. I’m genuinely curious:
I haven’t been following closely, but can someone tell me what’s so horrible about the House bill? Left-wing blogs like the Huffinglue Post are in full meltdown mode over it, so that tends to make me think it’d be a big improvement over what we have.
My understanding is that they can’t get a clean full repeal w/o 60 votes, and this can clear with 51. Then, standalone bills for interstate markets, tort reform, etc and the like will be offered as standalone bills and vulnerable D’s will be forced to get on record.
I realize that is probably not the complete answer - that there’s more they can repeal with 51 that they’re leaving on the table out of fear of political blowback. However, even if the GOP had the stomach for full repeal (which I doubt, let’s be honest), can someone explain what the strategy is to get that bill to Trump’s desk? Or, is the strategy to have it get blocked in the senate, let Obamacare continue to collapse the system until Democrats are desperate to help (hopefully after they get massacred in 2018)? Or, is the strategy to hope that McConnell finishes off the filibuster for good (yeah right)?
Repeal obamacare or allow it to collapse on its own.
PLEASE DEAR JESUS!!
No. Don’t let it collapse. All-out assault on it. Burn it down, leave not one smoldering timber standing. And then sow the ground with salt.
Thank you for the opportunity you invite. Rinocare is replacing socialized medicine with socialized medicine. It is taking the gun pointed to the heads of hard working people and forcing us to pay for those that don’t work hard, That is MILLIONS of dope headed losers who blew their chance at education. !!We will accept a safety net for a very select few of TRULY needy but the rest can go to the ER and fricken wait!! We are not a communist state. Stalin is dead!! Rinocare is dead!!
After all the searching, reading on this bill, I have to agree...allow it to collapse on its own...
RINO RYAN is at the helm of this bill and NOTHING good can come if it’s in his hands...he’s owned by George Soros and the ‘swamp’...
Let President Trump be President Trump...he hasn’t done us wrong yet...
As usual it is the “purists” versus the “realists”.
Ronald Reagan must be turning over in his grave since he wisely said he votes for those who agree with him 80%. win.
The purists could not care less if they lose, because they believe in purity over reality. In reality, the political landscape is littered with such losers in elections, and as a result they could accomplish ZERO percent of their noble agenda.
Let’s hope so. Bury it with cloves of garlic, some Crucifixes, a wooden stake, some kryptonite, then salt the earth around it.
Good questions, shows you’re open to facts not just reciting slogans. It’s complicated because the Democrats achieved their goal of destroying the private insurance market, thus there is no “back” to return to. What happens has to be a bybrid of where we are and what can be achieved in a logical and controlled way. Screw it up and the Republicans risk losing control of one or both houses of Congress in 2018. Don’t doubt that can happen because it often does, with much less of a factor than Obamacare in the balance. While I won’t say Obamacare is “popular” I will say a lot of people will find a reason to hate whatever the Republicans put forth even more than we hate Obamacare, and they will have the news media, educational system, and pop culture on their side to back them up.
If you haven’t studied it, here’s an overview of the plan:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/repeal-and-replace
Some things can be done through reconciliation with 51 votes but some will require 60 votes. Some changes can be made administratively, others will require changing the Obamacare law and still others will require new legislation, such as opening up health insurance sales across state lines, because that was never part of Obamacare.
The Rats knew what they were doing. They lit the bridge on fire and blew up the pylons for good measure. We’ve got a year to get it right, if they push something through that’s not good or screw arount too long, the midterms will be looming large next year at this time.
don’t replace, REPEAL!
Wouldn’t that be good news? Let’s call the committee members.
Please call your members of Congress and tell them to vote NO on this disaster.
(202) 224-3121. Call your local office as well, and email them.
They will tell you that this bill is better than Obamacare. It is, but only marginally. Obamacare 2.0, as Rep. Justin Amash called it. They could do so much better.
It retains the Cadillac tax — although it’s deferred to 2025. It repeals the individual mandate, yet re-enacts it in a different form by including a 30 percent penalty when you re-insure after being uninsured. IOW, the mandate via the back door. And refundable tax credits ARE subsidies.
Way too much like Obamacare. Only marginally different. The Republicans own it now.
I don’t want to tinker around the margins. I want to get rid of it. All the more reason why we must kill the bill, and we must kill it with Republican votes.
How about re-passing the 2015 repeal bill that Obama vetoed? Apparently, it had enough support to pass, so why not pass it now when you have complete control of the government?
Even better — the Paul plan.
Fortunately, I don?t think Ryancare will pass the Senate, even if it gets out of the House. I believe there are already three Republican senators against — Cruz,. Paul, and Lee. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sasse turns out to be a no vote also.
They might not even get the opportunity, hopefully. Amash has already declared against the Ryancare plan. Hopefully, the Freedom Caucus will stand against it.
Dick Morris on health care bill. Save your scorn he happens to be right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9flYhd4tZY
Repeal Obamacare and then utterly reject RINOcare.
As it should.
I am with you on this HarleyLady, I DO NOT want this bill wrapped around our POTUS’s neck!!! NO WAY!!! Let the DAMNED thing collapse!!! Move onto Tax Cuts and then watch the obstructionist LYIN RYAN try to undermine POTUS AGAIN!!!
RINO Ryan’s bill IS “WealthCare” for The SOROS Owned GOP-E, Not “HealthCare” By Any Definition!
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14186/three-top-conservative-groups-condemn-gop-hank-berrien
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-return-of-rand-paul/article/2616635
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14186/three-top-conservative-groups-condemn-gop-hank-berrien
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14180/paul-ryan-rolled-out-republican-obamacare-aaron-bandler
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article138283303.html
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